Roy Jones Jr. vs. James "Buster" Douglas

I remember when this was in the works, at that point I wasn't quite sure who I favored, knowing now how easy Big Lou took out Buster and the Monaco fight I think Jones could shake up this Buster.. Though I still think he wins on points he would be safety first all night never giving Buster a chance to land a great shot.. Which would also mean he wouldn't sit down enough on his own punches to take out Douglas or to even try really... Jones had no problems winning on points and not taking risks... My guess is Jones would win something of a dull fight in which he is simply just to fast and slick for Buster..


Now the Buster of the Tyson fight would destroy Jones, but the 98 version was just a shell of that Buster...

 

He did contemplate it, and 5 years later he went upto heavy.

He was scared of going up in his peak at 29, yet he wasn't at 34/35?

It doesn't make sense.

 

You are joking right?

The McBride version of Mike, that was shot to ****, who quit on his stool in his last fight in 2005?

He couldn't beat Kevin McBride, but he would have beaten Roy?

You can't be serious?

 

That version of Mike may well have sparked Roy. It would only take 1 solid shot and Roy would be out. Mike, even at that point, would be able to land at least 1 solid shot.

McBride was able to tire Mike out and basically push him down into quitting once he was exhausted. Roy wouldn't be able to do that and, imo, would be sparked while ahead on the scorecards.

 

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And Roy got knocked spark out by one punch how many times at his peak?

The thought that washed up, apallingly bad versions of Douglas and Tyson could still just hit prime Jones once and knock him unconcious is just fanciful.

Tyson and Douglas were struggling with sub-standard fighters by the end of their careers and even at a significent size disadvantage Jones was better than ****ing Kevin McBride and Louis Monaco.

 

Roy was never hurt in his prime and would completely dominate the Douglas of 98

 

'McBride' Tyson beating anyone is a ****ing joke.

 

Tyson got tired of hitting the big sack of **** Kevin Mcbride, who i think, was Tysons largest ever opponent.

He would find Roy a lot easier, Tyson never had a problem with speed, it was size. Would Tyson get tired of hitting Roy Jones? No he wouldnt.

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A much sharper Tyson was made to miss often and badly by a sharpish but fat and slow footed Buster Mathis Jnr for three rounds.

The "heart not in it", slow, not sharp at all Tyson of the Mathis fight would struggle to land more than a glancing shot on the greased lightning version of Jones that was getting around in 96-99. After 3 rounds he'd slow down and mentally give up.

No knock on Tyson as up until probably 2002 he'd destroy any version of Jones but he was definately that bad against Williams and McBride such that I wouldn't favour him against many world class fighters at all.

A sad spectacle those fights were.:-(

 

I've never seen a big name fighter look so obviously 'don't want to be here' from the opening bell as Tyson did against McBride.

 

About a month or two after this magazine came out Tyson was thrashed by Danny Williams, something I'm sure none of the mags predicted.

 

Tyson Kod Mathis in the third round and he Kod Botha in the fifth after being behind on the scorecards. It took Holyfield 11 to stop Tyson and took Lewis 8. Hell even Mcbride went 8 rounds with Tyson. Jones simply isnt surving that long. Holyfield and Mcbride still had to take some shots before beating Tyson and Lewis just outboxed Tyson using his size. Jones has a dodgy chin and no size advtange over Tyson.

Any version of Tyson kos any version of Jones sorry.

The reason Tyson was misisng so much against Mathis was a) he had nearly 4 years of ring rust to shake off and b) Mathis was pretty slick even Bowe had difficulty with Mathis.

 

Williams was a big guy and he had a decent dig and even he had to take a few shots, shots jones simple wouldnt be able to take. Which he himself has proven over and over again.

In fact around that same time Tyson was losing to Williams, Jones was being Kod by Glen Johnson and Tarver

 

The Tyson that lost to Holyfield and Lewis was 50% better than the train wreck that entered the ring against Williams and McBride. This version of Tyson doesn't beat a still physically prime Roy Jones and going by those fights I'm not sure he even cares if he does.

The fact that a slow, featherfisted, not overly great chinned, mauler like Botha could out box a still physically decent Tyson for 4 1/2 rounds basically reinforces my point that even an undersized but peak Roy Jones could do an even better job against the mentally shot and physically diminished 6 years older Tyson of 2004-5.

And if Mathis could make a rusty but still powerful and fast Tyson miss so badly surely a slicker, quicker, more mobile Jones could do even better against a slow, not give a ****, drug addled, depressed Tyson?

Look I understand why you're so adamant Mike could win and seriously I don't think any Lt Heavy in history lasts much more than a round with a still half decent Tyson but as a fan surely you can see just how little Tyson had left at the end and why a peak Jones (remember this is who we're talking about, not the bloke coming back down after Ruiz) is a massive chance here?
Surely?