Roy Jones Jr. vs. James "Buster" Douglas

Have you read my post?

Have you taken any of what I've mentioned into consideration?

If you have, but you don't agree, then fine, I respect your opinion Ice.

But if he wasn't willing to take the risk against Buster at 29, how come he was willing to take the risk against Ruiz, Tyson and Lewis at 34/35?

There were other factors involved in him backing out against Buster, it wasn't simply because he had cold feet.

 

Oh sorry thought you meant good Douglas

 

Jones had the skill to win a decision. Possibly wide.

 

He was basically the same size as Ruiz.

An inch taller and a few lbs heavier.

If Douglas trained and came in fit, he'd weigh around 235.
Similiar to what Ruiz weighed throughout his career.

 

The Buster that came out guns a blaring at Tyson would put Jones in a coma. He would shatter that glass to sand.

 

Who knows...
I think Douglas when he is right in the head.he is a tough fighter to beat,tyson could have be in whatever shape he wanted that night i still believe buster would have beat him although tyson was an animal for taking those shots that night.
Ruiz was tallor made for roy,i still give big credit to roy for winning that fight but comparing douglas to ruiz,i mean douglas was technique wise on another planet for ruiz,good jab,his footwork was good,good combinations to the body and head,i mean he was a total package.Too bad he wasnt mentally all that good.Same as mccall.
I think that roy would have won a close ud,but the more i think about that fight,the more im unsure what would have happened.

 

There's been some great comments on here, but we're not talking about the Tyson version of Buster.

Buster had a will of iron that night. He'd just lost him Mum and he went through with the fight, and he wouldn't have cared who was in front of him that night in 1990.

But in 1998, Buster was out of shape.

Now we have to assume here, that had Roy gone up to around 200 pounds in 1998, he'd have done it properly and he'd have boxed to his full capabilities.

So that means, that the 1998, 200 pound version of Roy, would actually have been better than the Ruiz version of Roy from 2003.

Now in my opinion, I think the Ruiz version of Roy would have beaten the 98 version of Buster.

So if we assume that Roy at heavy in 98, would have been better than the Ruiz version from 2003, I can't see how Buster would have beaten Roy.

Tokyo Buster is different.

But a better version of the Ruiz version of Roy, against an out of shape Buster in 1998, is an easy win in my honest opinion.

If Buster would have landed, then Roy would have been out for a week. But would Buster who was out of shape in 98, have been able to land clean on Roy? I don't think so. Basically nearly any fighter has the ability to knock out their opponent if they can land clean. Nearly all of Roy's opponents had the ability to knock Roy out, but they never landed flush. So of course Buster had the power to knock out Roy, because he hit twice as hard as Johnson and Tarver etc. But i just don't envisage him having a chance back then.

A soon as the fight went past 5, there's nothing Buster could have done. That's how I see it.

I think a lot people here, are picturing Buster knocking Mike out, and they're thinking of Johnson knocking Roy out.

I think it's effecting their decision making.

 

In 98 Douglas was hovering anywhere between 240 and 260. Obviously not in tremendous shape. The size disadvantage could have made a difference if BD could catch Roy, as a 250 lb man hitting a 175 one is going to be a major advantage. But in 98 Roy was at his physical peak. He had all the speed, reflexes, reaction time and anticipation in peak form. If douglas can catch him early he'd be in trouble....but it's more likely Roy floats to a UD. Size isn't everything, and at that time douglas didn't have the tools to chase down Roy.

 

Good points.

But people are assuming that Buster's weight advantage would have been a MASSIVE advantage in his favour. But I think the bigger Buster was, the more ineffective he'd have been, because he'd have been heavier, slower and not as fit.

Also Roy himself would have been around 200 pounds. So it wouldn't have been a 250 guy hitting a 175 guy. Think of Roy against Ruiz, but a better version. That's who would have fought Buster. I think it would have been a pretty comfortable points win for Roy.

 

Hi mate, how's it going? Hope you had a good Christmas and happy new year

I think Roy would have won a clear UD over Buster in '98. But I think he was right not to move up to HW then, as the move up and down could have shortened his career and prime significantly.

 

Hi pal, happy new year! I had a good Xmas thanks, but I had a bad cold and felt a bit rough. I still went out and got hammered though.

Did you have a good one?

I think Roy weighed up the situation in 1998, and then put the whole thing on ice. He was reunited with Big Roy, his family was happy, and he'd got other goals to achieve. He knew he'd get another opportunity later on his career, and that's what happened. I don't think he pulled out due to fear.

 

Well i always think when im comparing fighters prime by prime.the best of the best of the best sir!
Prime by prime that would be a hell of a fight although i wouldnt want roy in hw division.
I always wondered what would have been if buster was right in the head,how would the fight with holi go and what matches he could have went to.
I never compare roy past tarver,thats just a ghost of roy.

 

Roy all the way.