Roy Jones Jr vs Jim Jeffries

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It depends what you mean by better.

    I would without hesitation say that he was more durable.
     
  2. McGrain

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    I would too. If Jeffries gets Jones he goes.

    But Jones is elusive, is amongst the fastest fighters in history in terms of handspeed, has good generalship and thinks nothing of sniping his way to a decision, which would absolutley be his strategy here. Meanwhile, his hands are protected by his favoured gloves and his person is protected by a modern referee.


    Jeffries never saw anything like Corbett's prime, and still he struggled desperately with him. Corbett, in terms of execution and plan is the nearest thing we have to a foil in terms of facing Jeffries. Add it all up and it's enough for me to favour Jones over such a short (To James J) DISTANCE.
     
  3. bodhi

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    The longer the bout the less the possible it is for a lhw to beat Jeffries. I wouldn't hesitate to pick Jones over 10 for example but 15? No, I don't think so. Tunney was very durable he migh be able to do so. Same with Conn. I also think Michael Spinks and Ezzard Charles would have a good shot but not Archie Moore. Others I rate highly like Foster or Loughran, can't see it too.
     
  4. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i think ezzard charles would ko jeffries.foster could probably do the same and michael spinks also.
     
  5. bodhi

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    Still, I think Jeffries style would trouble him. He never fought anybody with a crouching style like Jeffries. And Jeffries was no Ruiz. He is faster, stronger, more durable, hit harder. I think the late Jeffries also had better skills. And Ruiz connected a few times with Jones. If this would have been Jeffries it would have been all over.
     
  6. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the late jeffries !! he only had about 20 fights.how late do you want him ??
     
  7. bodhi

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    Second Corbett fight. From what I have read and seen he looks better and more refined there. He may very well have retired just before he truly entered his prime.
     
  8. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones by brutal, embarrasing KO in the 1st round
     
  9. bodhi

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    Wrong Forum, the General Forum is one up :hi:
     
  10. Mendoza

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    Yes you are crazy. Jones has a glass jaw, and would not get Jeffreis respect. Its over as soon as Jeffries lands a clean shot to the head or body.
     
  11. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    jones would be too big and stong for mr jeff.mr jeff had his best fights against smaller,older men.
    mr jeff gets bloodied and battered
     
  12. Pachilles

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    Give a man a fish it will feed him for a day. Give a pipe smoking, top hat wearing gent from the triassic period Roy Jones and he gets knock the **** out.
     
  13. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good:goodmr jeff would look like slow mo compared to jones' hand speed:lol::lol:
     
  14. janitor

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    While Jeffries often needed rounds to dispose of smaller more elusive heavyweights, this has to be judged in the context that he was fighting them over a longer duration, where he might have to pace hiself for 20 or more rounds against a much smaller man. In this context his strategy of making them move more than he did while gradualy but systematicaly breaking them down with a body attack made sense. The strategy of smaller fighter in this era was usualy to outlast the bigger man.

    Now Jeffries is one of those fightewrs that broke is oponents down gradualy but generaly left them in a verry bad way. It is suprizing just how many of his oponents ended up with broken ribs and took a long time to recover.

    My guess is that if you give Jeffries fifteen rounds to put Jones away then he will do it in fifteen rounds. He will get down to business a bit more quickly, but will generaly employ the same strategy of sustained body punching. I also think that his two fisted body attack would be a good strategy for dealing with Jones over any duration.
     
  15. janitor

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    Jeffries probably had at least 25 profesional fights.

    The 1896 Hank Griffin bout apears to be his profesional debut but there are numerous refferences in the press to other fights not listed on boxrec and I dount that all of them are errors.

    At the end of the day though, part of the reason that Jeffries has so few fights is because there is no padding on his record. He was fighting men who were either world class or would be soon prety much from day one.