Roy Jones Jr vs Jim Jeffries

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    How does Jeffires stay with Jones to break him down? How does he catch up to him and keep up with him? I have trouble seeing that.
     
  2. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chalk me up as firmly in the Jeffries corner on this matchup.
     
  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lesser fighers than Jeffries had Jones on the ropes or in a corner during his prime. Why not Jeffries?
     
  4. McGrain

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    He also seemed to occasionally "guard" his right hand, with a view to preventing it's injury.

    A sound strategy and I understandwhat you are saying - he wouldn't use this in a shorter fight - but, I resent the idea that this is the primary reason Corbett caused Jeffries difficulty. It also has to do with the formers elusiveness, speed and generalship.


    I'm knees deep in Pollack's book, and was very interested to read that a greenish version of Jeffries struggled with Ruhlin - arguably needing that excellent final round to beat out the draw, which it sounds to me like he probably deserved. Nothworthy is that Jeffries wasn't using his infighting skills because he had been warned by the police chief that he would be stopped if he hit in clinches or during breaks. Imagine the type of impact a modern referee like Joe Cortez might have upon this fight?
     
  5. McGrain

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    You've gone completely bandy with fractions, percentages and factors this month, but I do agree with you that Jones hits hard enough that Jeffries couldn't toy with him.
     
  6. McGrain

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    :rofl


    Coming to an avatar near you...soon.
     
  7. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Jeffries was pretty mobile, not like Ali but like Marciano or Frazier.

    No he was not as fast as Tarver but as if not more awkward. Question: which fighter Jones fought used a crouch like Jefries did? Or had an equally punishing body attack? Jeffries would be rough, would bring on the pressure, work the body and when Jones is ready to go he will. Jones wins if he bout is over after 10. He has a chance over 12 but everything later and he get's killed - I know I exagerate a bit.
     
  8. janitor

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    Jeffries was actualy prety quick on his feet for a man of his size.

    He tended to stalk his oponent and either rush them or spring forward before going to the body.

    Against elusive oponents he generaly had to eat a few jabs, and ended up missing with a few punches but he always seemed to land enough to their mid section to break them.
     
  9. McGrain

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    Yes, a man of his size, in an era when being a man of his size was often seen as a dis-advantage. Jeffries speed surprised his contemporaries, i'm not so sure it would surprise anyone post Ali.
     
  10. janitor

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    Do people think that the length that the bout is being set at (15 rounds) favours Jones or Jeffries?

    I personaly think that making Jones go three rounds more than he is acustomed to will hurt him more than shortening the bout down from 20+ will hurt Jeffries.

    Thoughts?
     
  11. janitor

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    For a 220lb fighter he would have been exceptionaly fast in any era.

    Look at the footage of him sparring for the Ruhlin bout and then compare his foot speed and reflexes to those of sombody like Sonny Liston or George Foreman.
     
  12. mightyd40

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    people that jones didnt have respect for, if he were really going in with jeffries you can bet he would be quite mobile throughout the entire fight and hes too damn fast for jeffries to catch and break down.
     
  13. McGrain

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    Neither Liston or Foreman would be consider "exceptionally fast in any era". Both were outsped. Haye is a fast heavyweight. So is Holyfield, so is Johnson, so is Bowe. I doubt we would be astounded by Jeffries deployed speed if he were turning proffessional now, nor do I think he was as achingly slow as the un-initiated seem to think.
     
  14. mightyd40

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    exceptionally fast or not, hes going to look slow against jones who is the definition of fast.
     
  15. bodhi

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    Of course he wouldn't but he is cerainly not slow. He is slightly faster than Liston or Foreman imo. Who thinks they would have problems with Jones?


    Jones never had stamina problems, he would have no problems going 15 I think. But he would sruggle to last 15 with Jeffries due to three more rounds of beeing broken down.


    Do you think Jones it too fast for Liston or Foreman? Sorry but speed is not everything and Jeffries is not some caveman stumbling forward.


    Actually, I don't think Jeffries is slower on his feet than Bowe. But I agree with your posting overall.