Roy Jones jr vs Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran

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  1. The Predator

    The Predator Active Member Full Member

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    I just watched a documentary about Roy Jones jr and they discussed how he would do against the big 4.
    I think that he would
    beat Duran, pretty easy.
    Win over Hearns but have trouble
    I´m unsure about Hagler
    I don´t think he would beat Leonard, who was probably as fast and a little bit of same type of boxer.
    So :
    Jones jr - Duran: KO 5
    Jones jr - Hearns: Points
    Jones jr- Hagler: Draw
    Jones jr - Leonard: Loss on points

    What do you think?

    All the best my friends
    The Predator
     
  2. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones would beat them all.
    Duran would be the eaiest win.
    Leonard, Hagler and Hearns are intresting bouts. Each could give Jones problems.
    Hagler is the most "natural" middleweight, but he's also the shortest of the three. Despit having the better resume at 160. I think he would be the esiest of the three.
    Leonard has the ability to win fights he shouldn't and for this reason is dangrus to anyone overlooking him at 160. I think Jones is just too fast and too good. Hearns could use his size to his advantage, but I see Jones's speed winning the day.
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jones takes all four.

    Without too much difficulty.
     
  4. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The size disparity isnt fair...Hearns had the best chance but even he'd probably lose....Hagler is the only true middleweight and the rest were at their best at welter or lower...a tall order regardless how great they were...Jones best weight was 168...Duran would get embarassed, Leonard too...Hearns has a shot i just see his chin letting him down...Hagler has a shot but i dont see him landing enough to get the win
     
  5. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns would beat Jones. McCallum who fought Jones said Hearns would and could still beat him at 35. This thread is over rating Jones. Hagler would probably wear him down. Duran would be easy for Jones. Duran never had an easy time with a fast guy who was great. Hearns would knockout Jones in 4.. Hagler would stop Jones in 9 and Leonard probably lose a close decision.
     
  6. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns was in more wars than Jones and liked them. Hearns actually like getting in real fights. Jones never did. Hearns had the better chin than Jones but he left himself open when he loved brawling. Put Jones in wars like Hearns had with Leonard,Hagler,Roldan.Barkley. See if Jones can take the right hand Duran landed on Hearns in round 2!!!! Jones would be very unaccustomed to the waters Hearns would take him into getting hit with jabs and right hands!!! Hit man wins again!!!
     
  7. stonehammerjack

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    I think Jones maybe beat them all. Duran was too small atthat weight for Jones, Hearns sucked at Middle and had no chin at middle-an easy early KO for jones. leonard really too small and unproven at that weight. Now Hagler is something else. At truly Marvelous fighter who would fight to the death against Jones in his prime ( before 84) and I think he would trade wins with Jones in a series, but may lose initially. And of course, for me, fights are always 15 rounds, as there werre in my life.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Hearns took myriads of heavy punishment with his "no chin" against Hagler. How do you think Jones would have reacted if taking the exact same punishment?

    I know his defense wouldn't have allowed it, but just wondering how you think he would have gone shipping so many clean hard punches?
     
  9. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Duran - Jones on points
    Hearns - Hearns on points
    Hagler - Hagler by tko
    Leonard - Leonard on points
     
  10. stonehammerjack

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    Jones never showed a weak chin at middle. If Marvin came at Jones like that, HE would be ko'd. He went at Hearns that way, because he knew Hearns chin was not top rate. Hagler was great, but even he would not go at Roy Jones like that.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Ok, so if Hagler went after Jones he would be ko'd. Interesting assessment i must say.

    I agree Jones didn't show a weak chin at 160, or at anytime pre Tarver, but the fact is when did he ship ANY serious punishment at 160? What fight would you point me to at 160 that would hint he could last as long as Hearns did against such punches?

    Again i know he wouldn't take that much given his reflexes and defense, but my question is still in the air.

    I reckon he went at Hearns as much because of styles and dangers than just chin.
     
  12. stonehammerjack

    stonehammerjack Member Full Member

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    that's just it. you can't point to something that never happened. He was never wobbled until he got clobbered by Tarver at lghtheavy. But you can point to Hearns being wobbled by DeWitt, Roldan, Barkely, Kinchen Leonard and Hagler, all at Middle. He is lucky he survived to last in some of these fights. I'm no great Jones fan, but he destroys the mediocre, softchinned Hearns at middleweight. THAT was the question asked, I beleive.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    In that case how can you point to Jones ko'ing Hagler (if he attacked) when Hagler had never ever been ko'd?

    You can also say Hearns was in trouble quite a few times yet only stopped 3 times in his career that included many great opponents. You could also say Hearns proved a few times that he could come back from adversity and still win a fight, if you get the point of where i could head to.

    If you think Hearns is "mediocre" at 160 then, well, i'll refrain again.

    I will point out he has never been stopped by a singular punch.

    Well it wasn't mine, but it's not going to be addressed fully regardless.

    Incidently i reckon Hearns has the best chance of beating Jones at 160 for the simple reason i reckon he has more chance to land a bomb or two on Jones at some point, and is the hardest hitter of the group.
     
  14. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones KO Hagler... You just lost all credibility.
     
  15. stonehammerjack

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    I don't see how. If Hagler ran in on Jones the way he did on Hearns, Jones had the speed and firepower to overwelm Marvin and yes, in that kind of fight, KO him.