Roy Jones Jr vs Marvin Hagler @ 160lbs

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What are you learning exactly?

    In the past few weeks you've told me the following:


    Canelo hits harder than Eubank.

    GG would have beaten Roy.

    Benn only threw single shots and didn't throw combinations.


    Most of these these film studies are edited videos from fanboys.


    Please explain why you've posted a video of Marvin switching against Leonard, when:

    1. It cost him the fight.

    2. It has no relevance to my post.

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  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    More obsession, lol! GGG`s guard is far better than Roy`s was.
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  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Another non answer.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marvin had a good reach for a guy who weighed in at 157 pounds. But don't try and pretend he'd have had a reach advantage in a fight against Roy.
     
  5. Loudon

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    Roy's reach has been quoted at 75" over the years.

    They were practically the same.
     
  6. Loudon

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    Here we go again.

    An edited video from a few specific moments during the fight.

    How about if I post a video of Canelo rocking his head back with combinations?

    How about if I post you some gifs of the fight against Brook?

    This is why I said that you've got an unhealthy obsession with these videos.

    They are merely SNIPPETS.

    GG is EASY to hit.

    Roy wasn't.

    Instead of watching edited fan videos, go and watch their actual fights.

    It's a joke that you keep referencing these clips as some sort of evidence.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I was just showing the punches he landed, I don`t know that all Canelo`s punches are harder Eubank`s KO punches but he hits harder much more often, every punch has his full weight behind it, while most of Eubanks punches were point scorers like Ali`s (who also scored good KO`s) I just think Canelo has been trained a lot better Eubank was. I didn`t need a film study to tell me Benn wasn`t a good combo puncher, just look at the first fight with Eubank, pure one`s and two`s GGG throws far more combo`s than Benn ever did. By the way I`ve met Benn, back in the 80`s when I was a kid he was at a fight venue where I was watching a friend of my family box Andy Till, and Benn gave me his autograph, very charismatic guy, I just feel he`s overrated in some respects, back when I was 14 I was devasted when Eubank stopped Benn, it`s nothing personal and I`m glad he beat an overhyped American like McClellan, but GG is better than both fighters ever were, I feel, no biggie, peace.
     
  8. Loudon

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    Mate, what on earth are you talking about?

    Benn wasn't a good combo puncher?

    He only threw one's and two's?

    You're talking absolute nonsense.
     
  9. Man_Machine

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    Prime Hagler? There's a probably a few ideas about the period, during which Marvin was plateaued, at his best. However, I doubt any of them include Fight 67, in April '87.

    I'd suggest from Colbert to Sibson, although I sometimes wonder if Hagler had dropped off before '83 and that the Sibson bout was a resurgence, rather than part of his peak run.

    The Duran fight (which came later) is a mystery to me but, contrary to the perception that Hagler struggled with Duran, I tend to think that his throttling the gas up and down was entirely intentional, if inexplicable.
     
  10. Man_Machine

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    At 65 pro fights in, suffering from injury, now fighting once a year, not to mention what everyone witnessed with their own eyes that night against Mugabi - Hagler had quite obviously, really slowed down.
     
  11. mark ant

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    In Benn`s most credited win he didn`t throw one combo in the 2nd round of that fight!
     
  12. Loudon

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    I always think of the Minter fight when I think of him in his prime.
     
  13. Loudon

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    What about the other rounds?

    What about his other 40 plus fights?

    We're talking about in general.
     
  14. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That bout could well signify his peak, but it's difficult to tell. His unrelenting want to become and remain champion drove a consistency in his performances, rarely seen in today's game. His destruction of Minter was, to my mind, one of the most clinical beatdowns I can recall seeing.
     
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  15. Loudon

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    Disgusting scenes by the crowd.