Roy Jones Jr vs Michael Nunn

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  1. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Toney made 6.75m according to him taking 45% of 300,000 $50 PPVs

    Both Jones and Toney turned down 2m guaranteed in order to have higher splits of the PPV money
     
  2. CharlesBurley

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    Why would he fight a hard fight against James Toney when he could face a nobody for the same money and then face Toney on PPV after the contract expires?

    The Sky contract ensured Eubank had no incentive to face the most challenging opponents, much like Jones Jrs contract with HBO ensured the same
     
  3. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In his dreams did he! That's fantasy lala-land. These figures don't come out of thin air! I'm sure James Toney would've fought him for free. And no Eubank wouldn't of demanded that sort of money because it wasn't possible, it wasn't part of the deal. The deal was £1.25M a fight, no PPV, no ticket sell % (that was between Barry Hearn and Sky).
     
  4. Bulldog24

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    PPV didn't exist in the UK. It wasn't even perceived, until the Bruno-Tyson II fight. You seem very young and fantasistical.
     
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  5. CharlesBurley

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    Toney earned 45% of the Jones Jr PPV money

    300,000x$50 (x0.45)= $6.75m
     
  6. CharlesBurley

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    It was around in the US and it ensured Toney took 6.75m against Jones Jr

    I'm explaining to you why big fights didn't happen. Unless both fighters are getting 3x+ more than facing an average opponent there's no incentive
     
  7. Bulldog24

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    $50!?! WTF! That was like $250 back then!

    Try $8.
     
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  8. Bulldog24

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    The incentive is to prove themselves against the other surely? I don't quite understand where you're coming from. Eubank wouldn't of needed any more money in his last fight, and Toney was more than happy to fight in front of 0 people in the street.
     
  9. Bulldog24

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    Unless you're calling James a fraud?
     
  10. CharlesBurley

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    I was wrong it was 29.99:

    [url]https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/on-this-day-roy-jones-dominates-james-toney-in-super-middleweight-masterclass/[/url]

    29.99x300,000 (x0.45)= $4,048,650

    Not including the gate, sponsorship, overseas rights sales.
     
  11. Bulldog24

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    I'd sooner believe TV execs, Chris Eubank and James Toney than two fantasists on some Internet boxing board 30 years later.
     
  12. Bulldog24

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    Nobody in the US was going to pay to watch Chris Eubank because they didn't know him. The Littles and Prince Charles fights weren't PPV.
     
  13. CharlesBurley

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    Eubank was contracted to face either Toney or Nunn if he won or lost against Benn. Because he drew he bailed on those fights and chose not to fight either of them. Don King would of made the fights, Eubank prefered to fight lesser opponents on a multi fight deal because it would net him more money

    The incentive for all of them as professionals was to make the most money. Taking on a more challenging opponent that may stop you making the most money possible is not optimal from that perspective.
     
  14. CharlesBurley

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    Toney got 45%, Jones Jr 35%
     
  15. Bulldog24

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    Exactly. Toney wasn't to be until the last fight. His last fight, ever. He wanted out.

    Google the definition of 'culminate'