Roy Jones Jr vs Michael Nunn

Honestly, this was an absolute pleasure to read.

I can envisage everything you’ve written.

I can’t disagree with any of it.

I see it the same.

Either Nunn on points or Roy by a stoppage.

Roy would had to have gone at him hard and early before he could get into his stride.

You don’t want a chess match with an elusive southpaw who possessed a 77” reach.

 

Very true

 

You're also not including what he had to pay in tax, to his trainer, promoter, venue ect. I doubt James walked away with 4M.

 

Didn't he threaten to shoot Jackie K for taking too much money?

 

He blamed her for the loss to Roy.

If you or anyone else is interested, General Zod, who used to post here, made 2 great threads covering that whole period.

His excerpts are from a fantastic book, titled ‘Dark Trade’ by Donald McRae.

It details the build up to the fight, the fight, the aftermath, with some great interesting things that happened behind the scenes.

Anyone who is interested in either guy is sure to find it very interesting.

I’ll leave the links here, just in case you, Charles or George etc, want to have a look.

I think they’re great.

The book can be purchased cheaply online too.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&ved=2ahUKEwifmqz7z9noAhU1oVwKHW0FC3oQFjAKegQIARAB&url=https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/james-toney-goes-to-war-part-1.315708/&usg=AOvVaw0HSUqOiln0a3svi0w2kGPD

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwi22_D5zdnoAhWKY8AKHdo9A2oQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/james-toney-goes-to-war-part-2.316611/&usg=AOvVaw0G-PCYC-4cFAO4lC5KWvl1

 

You may find these of interest:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...rt-1.315708/&usg=AOvVaw0HSUqOiln0a3svi0w2kGPD

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...rt-2.316611/&usg=AOvVaw0G-PCYC-4cFAO4lC5KWvl1

 

Interesting

 

I see this as a close and quite even fight. I lean towards Nunn by close decision. I think his size and range advantage would be the deciding factors. Nunn has only been stopped once in 60 fights, fighting as high as light heavyweight, so I do not know why some here are confident over a Jones KO.Nunn had a good cin, the same can't be said of Roy.

 

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line....

 

Roy would have had to have fought him aggressively.

I wouldn’t have been confident of Roy stopping him, but people would have given him a chance based on his great speed and power.

Also, Roy had a decent chin.

Being knocked out by world class LHW’s and CW’s whilst past prime, after taking flush shots, doesn’t change that.

 

They said Reggie Johnson was getting the better of Roy in sparring in 92 in Pensacola, and that Roy Sr felt Reggie was better than him, which led to the father and son fall out.

When Roy fought Reggie, eventually, he trained as hard as he did for his first World title fight (Hopkins), Toney and Griffin II, if not harder, according to Merk. Because he wanted to show his father who the man was

 

Roy Sr was absolutely right though to take RJJ off TV (NBC) after two fights and have him dissappear for three years, at 20-21 years old RJJ could've easily got caught up in a different lifestyle or sidetracked

 

I’ve not heard that before. I’ve heard that Roy was upset because his father wanted to train him, despite knowing that they could be future opponents at some point.

Their relationship was already strained but Roy finally snapped when his father shot his friends dog who Roy was looking after. It had bit Roy’s sister when Roy wasn’t there. By the time Roy returned back home, his father had already blasted it with a gun.

 

Roy Snr stifled his progress.

He made him into a fighting machine but then held him back.

The Levin’s say that he hid title shot opportunities from Roy.

He wasn’t going to get caught up in a different lifestyle.

He was 100% dedicated.

He hardly ever socialised.

He was in the gym every day, sparring guys like Lindell Holmes.

The Levin’s weren’t happy and they were losing money.

Roy’s career only started to take off when he signed with HBO in 1992.