Roy Jones Jr vs some of todays HW's

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  1. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    you cant possibly be a haye fan are you? seriously now come on? :rofl
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roy fought Ruiz in 2003.

    He didn't run from both the K's. Wlad was a nobody getting knocked out by Sanders in 2 rounds, just after Roy had beat Ruiz.

    Roy Snr blocked a fight with Buster Douglas.

    I think the Ruiz version of Roy, would beat the majority of those fighters from that list.
     
  3. Arranmcl

    Arranmcl Arran Full Member

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    Weight difference has more effect in the lower weight classes, you act as if a light heavyweight has never beaten a heavy heavyweight.

    It is an unlimited weight class for a reason. If Jones can fight Ruiz at 200+, how is it unfair to ask how people think he would do against some of todays HW's who aren't that good either.

    I know we're on the internet and everything, but that doesn't mean you have to be a massive wanker all the time.
     
  4. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Certainly some winnable fights there for that version of Roy.. I would say 3-4 of those guys beat him... I certainly wouldn't of picked any of them before I knew what happened to Roy after the Ruiz fight...
     
  5. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    You are so ****ing deluded I don't even know why I bother talking to you, but here goes. He ran from Vitali. Vitali was his Mandatory and we KNOW that Roy has always had a hard-on for fighting Mandatories. However, this time there was a difference and that is the Fact that this Mandatory could fight and Roy wanted no part of that. He ran back to LHW where he promptly got his Glass Jaw Shattered by Tarver and Feather Fisted Glen Johnson.

    Nobody blocked fights with Douglas, Tyson, Holyfield, or Lewis. Roy did what he has always done throughout his career which is talk big about the match-ups that fans wanted to see and then avoid them like the plague while handpicking pathetic opponents with no power and no skill. You can claim that Roy wanted those fights all you want to, but the Fact remains that none of the big fights he ever claimed to want came to fruition and the opponents in question were never known as guys who were impossible to deal with while Roy was known for being a coddled diva who made contractual demands that bordered on the absurd seeing as how he was NEVER any sort of a PPV attraction.
     
  6. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Roy signed to fight Douglas... a date was set.. He backed out due to his dads advice.. FACT.
     
  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The answer is no, but what does that have to do with anything. I was meerley highlighting an error which I put in bold text for you.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Metal,

    You're talking bollocks again!

    We've been over the Heavyweight issue a thousand times!

    Tyson was agreed in principle. Both fighters spoke at length. Roy was a huge Tyson fan, and everyone wanted the fight. Shelly Finkle was desperate for it. They wanted to stage two fights. King and a contractual dispute with Showtime blocked it.

    Roy kept his Ruiz weight on for a long time, in the hope that it would be resolved.

    Tarver crashed the Ruiz press conference, and he was constantly in his ear baiting him at every opportunity all through 2003. When Roy couldn't get Tyson, he agreed to fight Tarver, because he'd gotten on his nerves.

    I've told you a million times, Roy had agreed to fight Evander just before Evander fought Ruiz for the 3rd time late 2001. Everything was set in place. Murad Muhammad had reached an agreement with Evander and his team. Evander then lost to Ruiz. Afterwards, Evander asked Roy if he still wanted the fight. Roy said no, because Ruiz had the title, and he didn't think he'd get any credit, for fighting Evander at that point. He then ended up staying at 175 for another year. At the end of 2002 he then asked Murad to get him a fight with Ruiz. (that you call a cherry pick) If Evander had have beaten Ruiz late 2001, Roy would have moved up to Heavy to face him at some point in 2002.

    The above information is not my opinion. It is all factual, that you refuse to believe, because of your hatred towards Roy!

    HBO offered DM $5m to come to the U.S. to fight Roy. He wouldn't go! Nobody in 2001-2002 expected Roy to go to Germany. The judges over there were raping Ottke's opponents. It was a complete joke!

    Handpicking opponents with no skill? Yes Frazier and Kelly were bums.

    But he beat Toney, Hopkins, Tate, Malinga, Castro (when he was a baby) Hill, Griffin, Reggie, Harding, Woods, Gonzalez, Ruiz, and Tarver.

    If you think those fighters above didn't have any skills, or didn't pose a threat, then you my friend are a complete ****ING IDIOT!! That has no repect for Boxing or any of the fighters!
     
  9. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    You are one of the biggest Glass Jaw Roy nuthuggers on this forum, as well, so again, I am probably wasting my time but here goes. Jones is a grown man. He could fight whoever he wanted and Douglas was garbage when Jones claimed to want the fight. It did not happen. He can blame that on his dad all he wants just like he blamed losing to Tarver the third time on his pops, but the bottomline is that Roy talked up a **** load of fights and they never came off. Ever. He is the loudest mouthed Glass Jawed Fraud of all-time and his entire career was a dog-and-pony show filled with smoke and mirrors. Fact.
     
  10. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:patsch

    I'm not even reading this garbage. I already know what it says which is "Roy said he wanted those fights and Promoter X/his pops/god/the man in the moon blocked them. He really was going to fight them, he said so!!!".

    Roy also said that he threw the third Tarver fight so his old man wouldn't get credit for a victory. Fact. Roy talked loads of bull**** about fights he wanted and they never happened. Fact. Roy made insane contractual demands like a 90/10 split with Nunn and a ridiculous payday against Tyson when he himself was not even a PPV or live draw. Fact. Your only source for these claims is Roy himself. Fact.

    You are delusional, pry your mouth off of Glass Jaw Roy's **** and wake up, dummy. When a guy talks big **** over and over about fighting legitimate opponents and these fights NEVER come to fruition it is much more prudent to assume that he is the problem rather than every single ****ing opponent.
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haha!

    Quote of the year, "I'm not even reading this garbage!"

    Haha! Hillarious! Keep hating!
     
  12. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    Why should I read it? It is the same drivel every time, nothing but Glass Jaw Roy saying what he was going to do and not doing it. You have no points to make and your only sources for these ridiculous claims are Roy and his camp. I am of the mind that actions speak louder than words and Roy didn't do any of the **** that he said he was going to do. That tells the entire story right there.
     
  13. JASPER

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    Sad thing is Ruiz would Probably beat everyone on that list except for Haye and maybe Potvetkin and Chambers (with 2 arms of course). IMO Ruiz is very underrated he was not fast or quick enough to touch RJJ . . . but who was. I never was a fan of RJJ but I would say he could beat most of the fighters on the list
     
  14. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why should you read it? Because it's factual information that pisses over all of your drivel that you spout.

    Why would he fight Holy after Ruiz had beaten him?

    If he'd have done that, you'd be typing to me the following,

    So what if he beat Holy? Holy was shot to ****, Ruiz had beaten him.

    That's what you and a lot of other people would be saying. But then you give him stick for not fighting Holy, and say that he cherry picked Ruiz. Then when I present you with facts, you refuse to even read them.

    Above is just one example. I can give you other examples using facts and logic, but what's the point? If we were having an intelligent debate, i'd take the time to find links, from people that weren't in Roy's camp, but I'd be just wasting my time, because you wouldn't read them.
     
  15. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz was a peach for Royd, he was a heavyweight with a meaningless belt and he could not punch his way out of a wet paperbag. Jones had a chance to fight Corrie Sanders when Sanders had the WBO title he lifted from Klitschko but brave Royd sprouted feathers and began shooting eggs out his ass. If you'll notice Royd Juice Junior did not want anything to do with a heavyweight who could punch. In the end, he was revealed for what he is and will always be and that is NOT a real heavyweight champion. If 2nd chair cruiserweights can knock Jones' head into the cheap seats, I heavyweight with decent power would knock it into the parking lot.:yep