Roy Jones Jr vs some of todays HW's

to keep his wba belt roy was going to have to fight ruiz again you idiot. ruiz beat rahman for the interim belt and then in order for roy to keep it he had to rematch ruiz. instead he vacated the belt. there were talks about jones fights with tyson, holyfield, sanders and even lewis but all of those fighters choose different options.

lewis-jones articles.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2003-06-19-lewis-jones_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2003-07-02-notebook_x.htm

 

Metal,

He hit a lot harder than all of Roy's opponents. But he didn't have a huge knockout ratio, because he wasn't a big hitting heavy against other heavies. Another guy who's fighting at 200 and above can take a better shot, than what Roy could take moving up.

All you're doing is looking at Ruiz knockout record against other huge guys. You call him feather fisted becasue of his record. But he's only feather fisted to other heavies. That's my point.

Glen Johnson knocked Roy the **** out. Right?
Forget Ruiz's ratio against other heavies, who do you think has more power? Johnson or Ruiz?

A guy who fights at 12 stone 7 pounds?

Or a guy who fights at nearly 17 stones?

If Glen could put Roy to sleep, Ruiz would have knocked his head off, if he'd have caught him right. That's the point.

He wasn't a big hitting heavy, but to Roy he was a huge puncher who outweighed him by nearly 3 stones.

You've no argument.

Glen put Roy to sleep, yet Ruiz wasn't a dangerous opponent to Roy, just because he hadn't knocked out a lot of heavies?

I'll say it again, any pro boxer that weighs 200 and over, could knock Roy out if he had the opportunity.

If Andre Ward fought a heavy who weighed 220 + who had a low knockout ratio, it would still be a big risk for him to take, and whoever it was, he would be a big puncher to Andre, because Andre is used to fighting guys at 168.

Stop looking at Ruiz's knockouts and get some perspective!

 

yes, the tyson fight is the one jones wanted because it made the most money and it was a very winnable fight for roy at that time. tyson didn't have his **** together to make the fight and roy got wanted to stay active so he moved down to face tarver.

 

:yep

 

i vote that we have ruiz hit "metal mandible" and see if he feels if ruiz is feather fisted. metal mandible, i guarantee this guy is a complete douche bag.

 

Look it up then idiot! Roy's demands were nothing to do with the fight not coming off. I've already explained that. Don't take my word for it look it up. Murad wasn't in Roy's camp when he told the story. He hadn't had anything to do with him for 6 years! He had no reason to lie. He didn't price himself out of any of them. If you want to prove me wrong, look it up and then post it on here.

 

Even the John Ruiz that Jones brutalized would give the current heavyweights a run.

 

Your articles proved nothing. If Roy really wanted Lennox Lewis, he would have taken a couple of other fights at HW against e.g., Corrie Sanders (to win the WBO and be a unified HW champ) or any other half decent HW to stay active and grow into the division a bit. When Lennox retired, it would have given Roy the chance to be the legit HW champ by winning those vacated titles in the ring. This is of course, if Roy was serious about fighting the likes of Lewis, and being a true HW champion which I doubt personally.

I think Roy moved up to HW because he saw an opportunity to win a trinket off Ruiz, who he was very confident in beating and make a payday. Then he wanted another easy payday against a shot legend e.g. Tyson or Holyfield, I don't for one minute believe he was serious about facing a Lennox Lewis, and trying to become the real HW champ.

 

Fixed.

 

Fixed.

 

Sanders agreed to fight Jones but the WBO wouldnt allow unificatiosn , they never have done before now at HW


Sanders said he would fight anyway and Jones used the title excuse

 

my articles proved that the fight was being discussed. that's all i was trying to do. i didn't think the lennox fight was ever going to happen either. roy vs sanders was being discussed at one point but the wbo said that they would strip sanders if he fought roy. roy said the only reason he wanted the fight was for the wbo belt so talks ended there.

http://articles.nydailynews.com/2003-08-10/sports/18248156_1_corrie-sanders-ron-scott-stevens-boxing

 

We know that the fight came up in discussions, doesn't mean that Roy was serious about facing Lennox Lewis, or winning the real HW title. So your articles proved nothing.

Roy didn't need to specifically fight Sanders, just a keep busy fight if he was serious about facing Lennox, or winning the real HW title.

Just seen Doylex's comment that Sanders was willing to face Roy anyway

 

uh, yes dumb ass. i just said these things in my last comment. the articles DID say that lewis preferred to rematch klitschko instead of fight jones. even if jones would have wanted the fight, he probably couldn't of got it. i don't blame lewis. that would be a nothing to gain (except money) and everything to lose fight for him.

 

No, those articles proved **** all. If Roy was serious about facing Lewis, he would have stayed at HW and tried to fight Lewis after the Klitschko rematch, or tried to win his vacated titles to be true Hw champ. Actions speak louder than words, and instead of this, Jones went back down to LHW which required him to shed around 6 pounds of muscle. Actions speak louder than words, and the facts are there. You're being humiliated yet again :hi