Roy Jones Jr vs Tommy Morrison at heavyweight.

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    That’s called hindsight bias since you already watched Roy easily beat Ruiz.
     
  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Morrison by KO. Jones is no heavyweight
     
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  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Jones wouldn't beat Morrison but Toney would.
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You’re talking to Roy’s biggest fan on the forum.

    It’s not hindsight bias.

    It’s appreciating the styles of the fighters in question.

    Tommy would have been more powerful and far more offensive minded.

    Roy would have been facing a much tougher challenge in Tommy Morrison.

    You do this on every thread.

    You debate on boxrec stats.

    You debate on numbers and the size of the opponents etc.

    Forget the stats, and concentrate on the styles.

    I’m always having to remind you that just 8 months after Floyd put in a masterclass against Canelo, that he struggled with Marcos Maidana.

    Styles.
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    That would have been a good fight.

    I’d have loved a Sanders-Toney fight too.
     
  6. BCS8

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    You're right! I can't wait for Lomachenko to put Joshua in his place.
     
  7. Glass City Cobra

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    Really not too crazy to consider.

    At the time, Holyfield was way past his prime. He was going life and death with guys like Byrd and Toney who moved up from lower weight classes like Jones.
     
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  8. Glass City Cobra

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    Not what I said at all.
     
  9. BCS8

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    Essentially this. What made Ruiz effective against other heavies was a liability against Jones. His low output, slow hands and slow feet were not that much of a liability when he could potshot and tie up the other guy. But Jones would be the guy hitting first and Jones would be the guy dictating where the fight went against Ruiz.

    Ruiz would be more effective against Morrison than RJJ because he had a decent chin and would be able to smother Tommy. Conversely Tommy would have a stylistically much better matchup against RJJ because of how the strengths and weaknesses match up.

    Tommy is a much more dangerous proposition for Jones than Ruiz. That's not a knock on RJJ. RJJ should never have been at heavy in the first place if we are honest with ourselves.

    I guess some people aren't able to see how styles make fights.
     
  10. BCS8

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    I feel Lomachenko can easily hit as hard as a heavyweight. Moreover he's much much more skilled. Those guys are in trouble.
     
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  11. Glass City Cobra

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    My original question required a simple yes or no.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    My diversion however runs parallel to your train of thought and is moreover much more entertaining.
     
  13. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    I didn't present a train of thought. I asked a question to understand your logic. You claimed Yuri must have more power than Jones simply because he was a HW.

    If you don't even want to bother explaining your position just say so.
     
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  14. BCS8

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    Maybe you should watch the fights
     
  15. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Maybe you should answer simple questions.;)