ROY JONES JR - 'Why aren't I judged by the same criteria as ALI & ROBINSON?!'

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    School Ray Robinson? Oh Lord!!!!!!
     
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  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well he looked good against Toney but the fact is Toney embarressed himself with his preparation for that fight. He had to lose so much weight he was drained and weak and I read where he took IV's for a few days instead of eating to make weight. He looked it.
     
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  3. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maxim was cherrypicked because he couldn't punch very hard. Roy won, Robinson lost.
     
  4. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    RJJ was bigger AND faster than SRR. Now, there are other intangibles to consider. School him? Maybe not, but H2H he beats him.
     
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  5. steve1990

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    Hopkins avoided a Jones rematch for years. Since they was no money fights at cruiserweight and he had cleaned out the light heavyweight division he cherry picked the worst out of the heavyweight champions.
     
  6. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Define "money fight". Jones turned down 4.5 million USD for a Jirov fight.
     
  7. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Holyfield was way psst prime.
     
  8. steve1990

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    He made 10 million in the Ruiz fight.
     
  9. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Was 4.5 million not enough for Jones? He demanded big money despite not being a PPV attraction.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    Roy Jones Jr doesn't have a résumé to compare with Ray Robinson obviously.
    But his achievements are plenty.
     
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  11. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wasn't a puncher but that doesn't mean he couldn't fight. Maxim has wins over Floyd Patterson, Jersey Joe Walcott, Jimmy Bivins, Charley Burley, Freddie Mills etc. He was the legit light heavyweight champion back then. He was not a cherry pick or an easy opponent back then. He literally fought everyone in his era.
     
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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Actually that's a good comparison.
     
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  13. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep. But the thing about Jones is how he beat those guys. These were guys that gave Toney, Eubank, Collins and Benn some real issues and he treated them like junior sparring partners. That is a truly rare thing.

    With that said, his resume just is a ways behind Robinson's. He might have an argument with Ali if you think the different weight classes he competed in makes a difference.
     
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  14. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Still a great fighter but those ko losses take away some of the shine.
     
  15. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Still a cherrypick.