ROY JONES JR - 'Why aren't I judged by the same criteria as ALI & ROBINSON?!'

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by porkypara, Feb 4, 2022.

  1. porkypara

    porkypara Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 3, 2009
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum: Reject The New Normal Staff Member

    Nov 23, 2013
    Well Roy, that might have a little something to do with you being popped for PED's perhaps?:nusenuse:
  3. panchman69

    panchman69 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 10, 2012
    Because nobody knows him, outside of hardcore boxing fans.
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  4. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Member Full Member

    Jun 6, 2009
    Eras change both perception and judgement of fighters, and in turn their greatness. Roy is one of my alltime favorites and you could argue pound for pound the fastest hands we've seen, he's definitely in that convo. That said his resume is OK but not like those guys I suppose.
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  5. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Member Full Member

    Jun 6, 2009
    It's kinda sad that we only judge a certain era forward on what they took to perform when peds are as old as sport....
  6. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

    Feb 1, 2021
    Roy is probably more well known than Robinson even outside of boxing fans
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  7. sasto

    sasto Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 5, 2020
    He's picking up a British accent, it's very strange to hear.
  8. Jackman65

    Jackman65 Dat bicep doe. Full Member

    Aug 31, 2019
    In fairness, boxing has become a fringe sport. More people know the YouTube amateur boxers than most belt holders. In the old days, everyone knew the major champs and watched them fight frequently on free TV. Boxing will never get back to the golden years and will continue sinking in popularity. As long as the alphabet soup sanctioning bodies and corruption rule the sport. I’m talking about US popularity. I don’t give a **** about popularity outside the US.
  9. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

    Nov 24, 2005
    He's correct to say his losses when he was old shouldn't change his greatness rating.

    He was virtually untouchable until he stated losing at age 35, then he declined rapidly and was just an old punchbag. But look at him at age 22 to 34. That's a great fighter.
  10. porkypara

    porkypara Well-Known Member Full Member

    Apr 3, 2009
    Did the weight drop after WBA heavyweight win effect his punch resistance or was he aways there to be taken out with a big shot but nobody could catch him.
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    Roy self-effacing as ever

    Because SRR and Ali were iron-jawed warriors with insane resumes and you're a savage puncher avoiding glass-jawed freak who couldn't take a pop on the whiskers from an old lady and your resume pales into insignificance in comparison to the likes of legends like them.
  12. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Active Member Full Member

    Nov 18, 2021
    Robinson also ducked.
  13. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" Full Member

    Oct 25, 2020
    i don't get it. so Roy's "glass jawed" and just never got touched until Tarver. but Tarver also won the first fight? but lthen none of the shots could have been clean effective punching because if they were RJJ would have been knocked out bc he has a glass jaw, right?

    because i happen to think Tarver did win the first fight, despite being a RJJ fan, and the announcers at ringside said Tarver was hitting Roy with a lot of hard shots.

    i find it a lot more plausible that a fighter loses their punch resistance through the abuses of training and moving weights and declining motivation and decreased reflexes than they moved up through the amateur and pro ranks and fought world class opposition including some hall of famers and just never got hit hard.

    really the whole glass jawed thing when talking about world class level boxers is kinda asinine.
  14. crosbyshow

    crosbyshow Active Member Full Member

    Oct 10, 2010

    So he had a glass jaw.....ok so it means how great he was...cause nobody touched him for over 10 years....except Del Valle for a flash knockdown...

    I have never seen a fighter at his prime as amazing to watch than Roy Jones was at his prime....not Tyson, not Mayhaether, not De la Hoya, Hopkins , one.

    In the 90s.....for me he was a top 3 athlete in the world along with Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods.
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

    Apr 14, 2009
    Easy answer here You just were not in the same class as Ali & SRR Roy. Had you retired after the Ruiz title fight you had the chance to maybe challenge them but instead you fought on & got exposed for having a glass jaw. You were good Roy Even looked Great but just not in their class
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