Roy Jones that beat Montell Griffin vs Calzaghe

Roy Jones outboxes Calzaghe easily in his prime.

 

Again, i ask: why?

 

Never said he was a bum. He was nowhere close to the level and class of Joe Calzaghe. Ever.

And like I said before Roy intentionally fouled to get out of their first fight and avoid a loss Griffin was up on 1 scorecard.

 

You will never get an answer. All the Roy nuthuggers do is regurgitate stuff they have heard hell half of them are like 18 years old and never even saw Jones fight in his Prime. They just repeat what they have heard. Hell anybody can look unbeatable against Otis Grant, Glen Kelly, Rick Frazier, Richards Hall ALL of these guys are no different than some of the guys Calzaghe was fighting but because it was Roy he was 'unbeatable'. :roflatsch

 

Without completely talking **** about Calzaghe, I just think that Roy was too fast, strong, smart, determined, focused, and gifted to NOT be able to finish Joe off fairly easily in his prime. I dont dislike Joe, just not a fan. Roys percentage of shots landed to punches thrown would have been too much, and his body shots were pretty damn fierce, not to mention his effective and unorthodox head movement and style. You just never knew what kind of punch he was gonna throw, and from what angle. I think he would just have been too damn much.

 

That doesn’t really say anything. You mean that, even if he didn’t want to, he’d end up knocking Joe out?

How many guys with world-class chins did Roy knock out? He looked incredible against bin-men and taxi drivers, but he looked tedious against Toney, despite the meek offering he put forth that night.

You’re implying that he would have landed at will and taken nothing back. Soon as Roy knew a guy could punch, he IMMEDIATELY stopped engaging. He would coast to a safe decision which is fine with guys with slower hands, low output and slow feet who are scared of getting countered themselves – Joe wasn’t scared of getting hit, because he knew once he was on you he could land four or five light punches and mix one or two harder shots in there too.

Why did Jones struggle with Tarver? Not because of weight drain – complete nonsense: he struggled with Tarver’s fast hands and power, the fact that he could punch with Roy.

Roy’s use of movement, again, was fine for guys that like to set their feet to punch, but Joe was happy to land light scoring shots, just to keep his opponent off-balance. It was awkward and he’d get himself into weird positions to throw from. That would trouble Joe, but he’s pretty awkward himself.

The body shots… no: Roy could do a good single body shot, but he didn’t really work the body. Calzaghe’s much better at going from body to head consistently, because of his hand problems that’s where he threw the harder punches later in his career.

That’s true, but the same can be said for Calzaghe and the constant work-rate makes it hard for any fighter to keep up.

Jones was a pot-shotter who liked space and time to set up his work – with a high output swarmer, with fast hands and high ring intelligence, he would always struggle.

 

Well said big mike, well said.

 

Heart, determination, will to win, and nous are qualities that Calzaghe has over Roy Jones.
Roy Jones greater silky skills alone would not have been enough to have beaten Calzaghe, Jones would have to have matched Calzaghes heart and desire to enable him to win the fight.
Calzaghe always finds a way to win, that is what makes Joe an ATG, Jones has fantastic athletic boxing gifts that make him an ATG, most fans only see the boxers skills in the ring, they dont understand that having a will to win combined with being able to change a game plan mid fight can make a very good sportsman as unbeatable as an extremely gifted sportsman, if not more so, how many grand slams did John McEnroe win and how many grand slams did Bjorn Borg win ?

 

Killed the debate dead, stone dead.:good

 

Your anti-Roy bias never ceases to amaze :rofl

:-(

 

Are we talking juiced or non juiced ?

 

Thats nailed it, dead stone dead.

 

rjj...haha...joe cant mess with a prime rjj...rjj ud 116-112

 

Joe has already messed with Jones and beat him easy, why would the result have been any different back in the day, when Joe was younger he had more punching power.

 

Jones, who apparently had a bad chin that was never tested owing to the fact that fighters couldn't hit it, is not going to be hurt by Calzaghe - a fighter who has managed to find the chins of every fighter he's fought consistently, who has handspeed on a level that Jones Jr probably hasn't seen before and in his youth, enough power to drop Eubank in the first round, is not going to hurt Jones Jr?

That's kind of funny.