Roy Jones V mike Tyson 2003-05

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  1. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jones wins tko 10. Too fast, Mike can't catch him & Roy takes no risks.
     
  2. Cheese

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    I'm a big fan of Mike and Roy. But Roy stayed where he should at the light heavyweight mark. Mike in his prime weighed 218 and it was all muscle. Mike's boxing was made for the heavyweight division.

    Roy might of gotten lucky by sticking and moving, but Roy could barely shake James Toney at times (lucky James wasn't a heavyweight at that time). If Roy takes one Iron Mike punch to the head it's a done deal. Or if Mike pressured him and went to his body Roy has no choice but to drop. How many body punches do you really think Roy can take from Tyson?
     
  3. Valane

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    Half a body punch.
     
  4. Cheese

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    Amen to that Valane!!!
     
  5. janitor

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    This fight almost happened.

    The one thing we can say for sure is that it would have benefited bot fighters win loose or draw. If Jones looses then it is a lot less damaging than loosing to Tarver. If Tyson looses then it is a lot less damaging than loosing to Williams. Whatever the outcome, both fighters curency would have held up better allong with their earning potential. It would also have been a legacy win for whoever won.

    So who wins?

    The Jones of the Ruiz fight would have run rings around Danny Williams. If I am putting money down then I have to say that he takes it.
     
  6. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doubt he'd land.

    He was terrible in his last two fights. No real boxing ability. Just moved his hands. Danny Williams can be kayoed. McBride isnt iron of chin. And they both withstood Tysons onslaught. He was just all gone. The speed, the skill, even the power.

    Roy of the Ruiz fight would punish him.
     
  7. janitor

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    For whatever it is worth, John Ruiz would probably have beaten Tyson at this point also.
     
  8. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right. Its just realism. Danny Williams is a gatekeeper. Kevin McBride is a journeyman of middling success who usually loses by stoppage when he loses. That Tyson couldn't handle them says much about where he was as a fighter. He's a h2h monster in his prime, but after 2003, he's h2h almost entirely impotent, and to believe otherwise is wishful fanboy thinking.
     
  9. Cheese

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    I don't see Roy taking one of Mike's punches, even when Tyson was declining. There's a reason why Roy did not go into the heavyweight fights until later in his career. Francois Botha ( a real heavyweight) was handling Mike pretty well for 5 rounds, until he left himself open for 1 shot and that was it. I'd really have to see how Roy reacted to a Tyson punch for me to change my mind.
     
  10. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm talking 2003-2005 Tyson losing to Jones, a prime Tyson ko's prime Jones in 1.
     
  11. Cheese

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    You could be right. But I just would have to see Roy withstand a Tyson hook to the head or body.
     
  12. Kalasinn

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    Exactly, he was a beyond shot-to-**** corpse, forced to fight to pay IRS bills. :verysad
     
  13. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And he didnt really hit hard anymore.

    He never hit like a Foreman to begin with. The speed of his delivery and the viciousness of his combo's was a big part of what made him lethal. Tyson at the stage waded in(Didn't get the ring, waded) and wung hooks. He failed to knock out two fragile fighters. He only landed a couple punches of any consequence on Lewis.

    Roy was too fast, too young, too gifted, and too good. Tyson wouldn't be able to get to him easily at all, and I question the damage he'd be able to do if he did. The legendary Hooks of Tyson(trademark) failed to get rid of two guys who ended up gotten rid of 11 times between them. That means the power is gone.
     
  14. Cheese

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    I think the power was still there but Tyson didn't put them together like they use too. Hey maybe Roy could pull it off. But one Tyson hook or uppercut (even on accident) will change the fight. There's a big real Roy stayed at the light heavyweight position.
     
  15. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy NOW has been stopped less times than either Williams or McBride. If Tysons hooks and uppercuts couldn't change the fight even alittle bit against either, I'll give a Roy whose punch resistance is intact a good shot of shipping a couple.