All of Hun's victories in that Olympics were meant to be controversial, even the one where he scored a stoppage. So there's no guarantee Jones would've won the gold had things been above board. Here's an excerpt from an article about it. Park Si-hun Park Si-hun, the Korean light middleweight representative is considered to be among the least deserving gold medallists in Olympic history [6]. Although Park was not without talent, having previously won gold at the boxing world cup in 1985 defeating US boxer Kevin Bryant, in the Olympic tournament he benefited from no less than five consecutive home-town decisions. After receiving a first round bye, Parks first bout ended when he landed two illegal blows, to the hip and kidney of his Sudanese opponent Abdalla Ramdan. Though the blows should have resulted in Parks disqualification, Australian referee Ronald Gregor was hesitant, undoubtedly haunted by the attack on the New Zealand referee five days earlier. Gregor consulted with the judges who deemed a disqualification to be inappropriate as Park had not been previously cautioned. As such, with Ramdan unable to continue, Park was declared the winner The luck continued to go Parks way in the third round when he was awarded a unanimous decision over one of the favourites, Torsten Schmitz of East Germany, in a bout that most observers felt Schmitz had done enough to win. Having progressed to the quarter finals Park was matched with Vincenzo Nardiello of Italy. Once more most thought Park had surely been eliminated but once more Park took the decision. After two rounds Nardiello had been ahead on all five score cards, two of the judges also felt he won the third but the other three judges awarded Park the final round by such a wide margin he took the fight 3-2. Nardiello crumpled to his knees and pounded the canvas when the decision was awarded against him. He then charged out of the ring and began screaming at the judges. Italian team officials managed to drag Nardiello to the dressing room only for him to race back out to the ring crying and screaming Parks blessed run continued into his semi final match against Canadas Ray Downey. For the fourth straight time neutral observers thought Parks tournament had come to an end, only for him to be awarded another dubious unanimous decision. By now Park had earned himself the moniker, The Unbeatable Park Si-Hun
Here's another interesting excerpt from the article regarding why the Koreans felt aggrieved with the Americans going into the Seoul Olympics. Seeds of discontent sown in 84 In 1984 with the Olympics held in Los Angeles, the US boxing team dominated the competition, taking out nine of the 12 gold medals on offer [1]. A major contributor to the unprecedented success of the US boxing team was the absence of the dominant soviet block nations, in particular amateur boxing giant, Cuba. However, many do not hold these absences as solely accountable; there remains to this day a widespread belief that the judging of the 1984 Olympic boxing tournament was heavily biased towards the U.S. team. Throughout the course of the competition there were many questionable decisions and rulings in favour of the US team. When US competitor Henry Tillman, in the inaugural heavyweight competition, was given a decision win over Angelo Musone, the verdict was criticised in Italian newspapers as, hallucinatory and scandalous [2]. After losing a close decision to Steve McCrory of the USA in the flyweight gold medal bout, Redzep Redzepovski of Yugoslavia complained, As long as an American is standing on his feet for three rounds it is hard to get a decision over him [3]. Redzeps comments were strongly supported by the simple fact that 37 of the 38 bouts that went the full three rounds involving Americans, were decided in their favour. The most vocal opposition to the officiating came from the Korean team. On paper the Koreans looked to have a strong team with a number of boxers considered to be in medal contention. However, as the Koreans failed to live up to their own lofty expectations, their attention turned to the American officials. The Koreans were particularly incensed by the dubious victory of light welterweight Jerry Page of the U.S over Kim Dong-kil [4]. After losing by a score of 4-1, a storm of protests were lodged by the Korean officials. Soo-In Oh, the vice president of the Korean delegation lodged a formal protest against the judging off the match and even went as far as to threaten to withdraw the entire boxing team from further competition. Oh would later admit that the threat was primarily an attempt to call attention to a string of controversial pro-US decisions [5]. The Koreans outrage was supported in all corners with many journalists, including the correspondent of the Los Angeles Times, expressing their opinion that Kim had won [6]. Despite the Koreans belief that the medals were practically being handed to the Americans, there were examples of fortune going the other way. The one decision to go against an American boxer was awarded in favour of Koreas Shin Joon-sup. Shin was given the decision in a very close middleweight final against Virgil Hill. No less then four out of Shins five wins came by split decision [7]. Further, when Australian Renato Corbett was awarded a 3-2 victory over Korean Chil-sung Chun, the decision was overturned and Chun was given the 4-1 victory [8]. Further, what is regarded as the worst decision of the tournament was against American Evander Holyfield. In his light heavyweight fight with Kevin Barry of New Zealand, Holyfield let rip with a brutal two punch combination, a left to the ribs followed by a left hook. Barry was knocked out but the referee, Gligorije Novocic of Yugoslavia, disqualified Holyfield for a late hit claiming he had called stop after the first blow to the body. When the decision was announced Barry turned to Holyfield and said, you won the fight fair and square. Before raising the Americans hand [9]. Despite the hope that the Joon-sups middleweight win would have a cathartic affect on the Korean team, it seemed that the Koreans would not soon forget their treatment at the 1984 Los Angeles Games. Korean team Vice President Oh was quoted as saying, "The judging has been quite unfair so far. We came here to learn a lot about the Olympic Games, because we are the hosts in 1988, and we've decided there's nothing to learn [10]. Despite Ohs claims it is felt that the Koreans did learn from the games and much of what they learned was applied at the 1988 Seoul Olympics to the detriment of their international competition. After the Jones decision there were accusations that officials of the Korea Amateur Boxing Federation had bribed or otherwise persuaded some of the judges as a payback for pro-U.S decisions at the 1984 Olympics
And an interesting reply I found that elaborates on that in a little more detail. Although that touches on how they benefited in the '84 Games, that piece there is still too much of a pro-American stance when discussing those Olympics and the boxing competition during it. Instead of saying that it was the Italian papers that disagreed with the Tillman/Musone decision, why not point out that practically every American paper covering those Games thought it was a horse**** decision, as did the hometown crowd who boo'd the decision given to Tillman? Also, I see it was written that one of the Koreans received an "overturned" decision under the jury system (any 3-2 split decision went to the jury), why not point out that that fight was, in addition to a horrible verdict, also an "overturned decision"? The decision the Korean got over Virgil Hill (who also got a "jury" decision earlier) in a boring fight was the fair one, as Hill didn't do a whole lot in that fight, at all. The Korean didn't do a whole lot more, but in pressing what little action there was and outlanding Hill, he still did more than enough to earn the decision he received and by no means was it a case of "fortune going the other way". The Korean deserved it, and he got it. Why not give a few more examples of bad decisions going the Americans way during those games, like Frank Tate's decision over Ayed in the first round of the tournament when Tate was "gifted" after taking a beating in the second round, as well as clearly being outpunched in the third? Or Tate's gold medal fight with Shawn O'Sullivan, which, while close, most in attendance and in the press thought O'Sullivan deserved the verdict and boo'd it given to Tate? Well, the decision may not have been as bad as in some others that went the Americans way, but I do question the scoring of the judges who gave O'Sullivan only a 20-19 second round when he battered Tate to the tune of two standing eight counts, and just about had a third (which would have ended the fight) when he had Tate trapped in the corner and was punching away at him at round's end. What's more puzzling is that some of those judges gave Tate a 20-18 for doing not much more than getting on his bicycle and jabbing away in the third round against an opponent who did a little less. Or Biggs' decision "win" over Damiani in the gold medal bout when it was clear that Damiani outpunched and outfought Biggs through the fight (again crowd boo'd, and the press questioned it), including bloodying his nose and swlling up his eye? Etc., etc. The '88 Olympic boxing competition was bad certainly, but the 1984 one in Los Angeles was by no means any better, and was the predecessor of the two being discussed as far as corrupt decision making/judging goes. P.S. Did that piece even mention the controversy surrounding Michael Carbajal's decision win over the Korean in the early rounds of the tournament in 1988, which was supposed to be the root as to why the Koreans attacked that referee after the fight due to them believing it was the same ref that had earlier worked the Carbajal fight?
If there wasn't controvesty than why did the korean people apologized to Jones jr and 2 of the judges was banned from judging.
He didn't refute that controversy existed, only that he didn't understand it because he is arguing on behalf of Si-Hun getting the nod - probably for the sake of argument/trolling.
Fact: OP is still bitter that CalSlappy had to wait until Jones Jr. was 39 years old before he could beat him. Cantona, I've told you before, you need to watch some ****ing tape, son!
that's because Koreans are working hard all day long and not wasting time for twitting on forums and spreading their sour grapes out there it was very convenient lose for Jones though so he could avoid any serious opponent in his career who was not fighting in US ... a famous fear from being screwed by the foreign judges again or ... for getting additional friendly judge advantage for himself.
The yanks were the phucking worst for olympic robberies, yet as always they're the ones who whine the loudest and longest :blabla :|
Maybe it's because two of the consensus worst Olympic robberies of all time were perpetrated against the US? :conf
Eric Cantona who started this thread is either ******ed or he's writing something that he himself does not believe to be the truth. If he's ******ed then I don't really think that this is the right place for him. If he's writing something that he knows to be false then that's just starting up ****, he might just as well have started up a thread with the title "**** all of you". Eric Cantona should be warned for his behavior and this thread should be deleted.