Roy Jones vs Billy Conn (resume and p4p standing)

I think billy achieved enough in his career that his loss need not be inflated to anything more than what it was: a loss.

 

Luf ,the Joe Louis that ko'd Billy Conn in 1941,was not the Brown Bomber of the Max Baer and Schmeling era. He ,as writers of 1941 maintained had started to pass his peak. Louis by the time of the Conn fight had about 55 bouts by then. I always felt that the youger Louis would have certainly caught up yo Conn,much earlier than the 13th round. But Billy Conn at 169
pounds against Louis's 200 pounds ,did a great job against the greatest all around puncher that EVER LIVED. Billy was one tough cookie !

 

Recognizing Conns performance in one of the greatest fights of his era is in no way an inflation of anything. Even though he lost that night what he did was impressive.

Both Roy Jones and Billy Conn fought for a heavyweight title.
Both were ahead on the scorecards after 12 rounds.

Billy Conn fought against one of the greatest heavyweights of all time for the lineal heavyweight title, and lost.
Roy Jones fought against a contender for the WBA alphabet title, and won.

Even though Conn lost, in my opinion, what he did is more impressive. Please explain how I am in any way inflating his loss.

 

Conn's loss is very impressive, but Jones wouldn't have lost

 

Only because Jones wouldn't have fought Louis.

 

No because he was much harder to hit, much quicker, hit harder and overall twice the boxer Conn ever was

Jones never ducked anyone, biggest myth in boxing, he was often the most ducked fighter himself, he wanted control of the money and didn't want to get dicked over by Don King. Holyfield is quoted as turning down 20-30million to face Jones himself albeit in '03. Plenty of top fighters turned down fights with Jones over the years

 

How's plod plod, take an hour to process where the opponent is, sloppy jab going to get near him again?

 

I have to agree with you PP. Jones, "wouldn't have lost". No, he would have been slaughtered. Louis took LESS than a round to utterly destroy a great lightheavyweight champion John Henry Lewis. Less than ONE ROUND, and Joe Louis was a close friend of JH Lewis. You want to compare a fantasy fight between a prime Billy Conn and a 170-5 pound Roy Jones ? Fine to me...But please don't mention A 198 pound killing machine Joe Louis and Roy Jones the LH. Conn lasted so long because Billy was faster on his feet, had a big noggin able to absorb blasts,and was meeting in 1941 a Louis a little past his peak.
And John Henry Lewis over LH Roy Jones anytime. Just look at the great opposition Lewis beat in that DEEP division of his time...Cheers.

 

Nah. He would lose like Conn did.

 

Nah. He would ultimately lose like Conn did.

 

Jones-Louis would be like Jones-Pazienza for as long as it lasted, with Roy in the Vinny Paz role this time. He has scrappy bursts of punches against the bigger man and the audience oohs and aahs for a bit. But we realize that Louis is just biding his time, much like Roy did against Paz, waiting for the right moment to unload.

It would be a cute fight while it lasted. I can even see Jones winning the first three or four rounds with his flashy moves and cutesy antics. Right up to the part where Louis times one of Roy's jumps to the inside and nails him with a right. If the punch doesn't KO Jones then the canvas does when Roy's head bounces off it.

Louis KO5 Jones.

 

burt, john henry lewis reportedly had one good eye when they fought. i'm not sure how great a win that is.

btw, is the only footage of lewis the few seconds of louis ko'ing him? if so, ain't that a *****. lewis has a hof career and the only video of him for posterity is a few seconds of him getting ko'ed.

 

K,before the Joe Louis fight in 1939 John Henry Lewis at the young age of 25, was on a 6 fight win streak. Lewis whipped tough Jock McAvoy, Len Harvey, Emilio Martinez 2, Bob Olin and the terrific LH Al Gainer. Yes his eye was a potential danger to his health, but he was going great guns
before the Joe Louis fight. Harry Greb was completely blind in one eye for the last few YEARS of his career,and was very successful... So credit should be given to the 1939 version of Joe Louis. In 117 fights the great John Henry Lewis was NEVER KO'D before Joe Louis demolished John Henry in ONE round. Joe Louis's like we will never see again...Cheers.