Roy Jones vs Evander Holyfield@ HEAVYWEIGHT.

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  1. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Yes, prime Holy had enough speed and mobility to box with roy and was bigger and strong enough to manhandle his little ass.

    Roy needs someone less mobile. Give him a Tua or Oleg, but not a prime Holyfield who would be able to catch him.
     
  2. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, but there's fast and then there's Roy Jones fast. Jones' speed is in a class on it's own.
     
  3. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's quite laughable to me that so many people are saying Holyfield would walk through Jones with no problem. I'm not putting anyone down for having such a prediction, but damn.. people are so convinced that Jones' chin would fail him in this fight, yet people forget that he went the entire prime of his career without ever even coming close to being knocked out.
     
  4. Icemmann

    Icemmann Breakin it down. Full Member

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    He didn't do it at heavyweight, and he didn't do it against somebody of Holyfields caliber.

    I find it laughable that people would pick a blown up middleweight to be able to contend with a Cruiser that turned into a proven Heavyweight, and was at worse the second best of his generation.

    All this based on one fight against John Ruiz, an opponent whose style is taylor made for Jones.
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holyfield takes this. Jones would not have been able the type of pressure Holyfield would have brought. Holyfield was also a great in fighter with good boxing skills.
     
  6. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Where have I based ANYTHING of what I said on John Ruiz? I merely said " the Jones who fought Ruiz " because that's the only fight Jones had at heavyweight. And you have to consider their styles, you can't just say " Oh, Holyfield beat this guy and that guy so there's no way Jones stands a chance ", if that was the case then by all rights.. Buster Douglas never should've beaten Mike Tyson.. or Max Schmeling never should've beaten Joe Louis.
     
  7. Icemmann

    Icemmann Breakin it down. Full Member

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    Thats the only fight he had at heavy, so thats the only way to accuratly gauge his skills at heavy on.

    Buster Douglas was a what? 40 to 1 underdog against Tyson? A crappy one at that if you've watched him any.


    And all those guys? HEAVYWEIGHTS.

    Holyfield would beat the ****ing snot out of him the moment he stood got his gloves on him. And he would get his gloves on him. Jones has to come within punching range to land his own shots, so when he does so he's in Holyfields range. Are you going to Imply that a Prime Holyfield that went toe to toe with Bowe is gonna become gunshy against Roy Jones? Get the **** outta here.
     
  8. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    evan fields knocks roid jones out.
     
  9. TanstA

    TanstA Legendary Full Member

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    Tua against JONES? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Cmon man, let's be realistic.. A big mutha****a like Tua would tear Jones a new one. Either way Jones was never a natural heavyweight. He dominated at Middle and Lightheavy. Him going to heavyweight is what ruined him. Go figure
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Byrd completely befuddled Tua. It's not out of the question that Jones could do it.

    If Tua connected, he would probably KO Jones. But it is not unprecendented that he would be completely outboxed.
     
  11. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins wasn't gunshy against Jones either, and he still couldn't catch him cleanly. And Hopkins is also faster than Holyfield.
     
  12. TanstA

    TanstA Legendary Full Member

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    I never said Tua would outbox Jones, that's impossible but Jones would not survive.

    As much as I would love to see him go the distance and win, it just cant happen.
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am saying that if Byrd could survive, there is a chance that Jones could have. Tua had trouble against guys like that.
     
  14. TanstA

    TanstA Legendary Full Member

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    True but Byrd is a natural heavyweight. Jones isn't ;)
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Byrd was fighting in the amateurs as a MW and his first fight in the pros was at 169:deal

    He has never been a natural HW. No idea why he fights at HW.