Roy Jones vs. Montell Griffin 2

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  1. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    When I think of fights, that were over before they even started, this is the penultimate example of that. You could tell that Jones had no use for anything other than shutting Griffin up and ending all pretense that Griffin deserved to be in the same ring with him.

    If there was ever any fight where I would've felt confident betting the farm on, it was this one.
     
  2. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Still lost the first one
     
  3. LogDog69

    LogDog69 Active Member Full Member

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    Oh yea, Roy really got his ass handed to him in the first one. :roll:
     
  4. Dostoevsky

    Dostoevsky Hardcore......to the max! Full Member

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    Griffen was actually winning the 1st fight...
     
  5. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Jones was actually ahead- although Griffin was giving him kittens.
     
  6. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    He got himself disqualified like a jackass. Regardless of the scorecards I think Roy thought he was behind and took the easy way out.
     
  7. LogDog69

    LogDog69 Active Member Full Member

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    Yea that's it. :-(
     
  8. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's not overestimate Griffin in the first fight... he did far better than expected and was frustrating Roy but there was no iminent upset. Their was one, ONE reason why Griffin was doing well and that was because he listened to the wizard in his corner --Eddie Futch. Eddie wasn't there for the rematch.

    Rematch minus Eddie equals -"no chance".
     
  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I was just about to post this, strangely enough Eddie agree's. It was poetic justice on a camp that ditched the great man.
     
  10. HECDAWG

    HECDAWG New Member Full Member

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    It didn't matter what trainer Griffin had for the fight because RJJ was not there to box he was there take Griffin's head off. That was the most agresive RJJ at LH.
     
  11. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson was there to take Holyfield's head off. Hearns was there to take Hagler's head off. Foreman was there to take Jimmy Young's head off. Miranda was there to take Pavlik's head off!

    Lesson #1: Sheer aggression is rarely enough when you are dealing with even a half-decent boxer.

    Lesson #2: Never dismiss the strategic mastery of perhaps THE greatest trainer who ever lived ... Eddie Futch.
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    acording to boxrec Jones was ahead on 2 score cards. I thought Griffin was winning though.
     
  13. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In their first fight I had it even after 8, however in the sixth round I believe it was, Roy was credited with a knockdown in a round Griffin was winning. The KD was not legit imo, as Roy leapt in with a hook and tripped Griffin with his foot, after bumping into him ala the Toney KD (also not legit imo). This was a 3 point swing (10-9 Griffin to 10-8 Jones), and so if not for that KD, Griffin would have enjoyed a sizeable lead heading into the ninth, when he was forced to take a knee.

    According to Compubox (and off the top of my head :D) Griffin had landed 25 or so more punches than Roy and was landing at a 20 percent higher connect rate after 8 rounds. :admin

    Yeah it's safe to say Montell deserves some props for how he fared against a prime RJJ.
     
  14. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Compubox doesn't know ****. Take 1st round, for example. If watched closely, with slow motion playback and replays, Jones landed more punches than Griffin (6-5), but if I remember right, Compubox stats were way off.
     
  15. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dear Senya-Roy,

    if compu box came out and said that Roy Jones was the most accurate puncher of all-time you'd be throwing that around like candy, now wouldn't you.

    Sincerely,

    ~ Anyone familiar with your posts.