An interesting point from the 'Roy Jones' Legacy' thread about Jones beating guys (at LHW) who weighed what the likes of Patterson, Marciano, Walcott and Charles would've weighed, made me think---Would LHW Roy been able to beat HW Marciano? Of course, Roy would probably box Rocky's head off for long periods of time. However, it would only take a single punch from Rocky to change the momentum of the fight (not saying that because I buy into this 'Glass Jaw' rubbish....I'd say the K.O losses were more down to Roy's body being shot after jumping up and down in weight) but Marciano really did have awesome power. Rocky was also a deceptively good mover, could he throw Jones off and land a big shot? Marciano struggled with a past-it Charles and Walcott, so would Roy not only bust him up but do the unthinkable and finish him off? I'm sure most people will say, easy, The Rock shatters RJJ's 'glass chin' but hopefully, by posting this on the Classic Forum, I will get some decent feedback as to how this fight may have panned out. I won't include a poll, would rather discuss this potential matchup like civilised beings Seriously though, any response is welcome :good
I really do think that Jones could win. But Marciano could end it with one punch. I really have no idea, I think Jones would have a much much better shot over 12 than 15. I think over 15 I would fancy Marciano to KO Jones.
Yeah, I'd probably agree. But, would Marciano have made it to 15? With modern day rules he never would've received another round against Charles. Whilst I rate Charles slightly higher than Jones all-time, I don't think that version of Charles would hit as hard as Jones against, say, Griffin 2. However, between rounds 13-15, if Marciano was as far behind as I think he would be, would Jones be able to stay away as The Rock steams into him and tries to wear him down. Would Jones panic and taste the Suzie Q? Jones had a decent chin in his prime IMO (when he was actually hit ) but Marciano, whilst only a small guy, hit like a mule, there can be no doubting that. May not be a HW in size by todays standards, but still hit as hard as one! However, I say Jones wins. I don't think Rocky gets to 15, great chin but Jones would cut him up and smash him up. Of course, I won't dispute anyone who says the other way, as long as they don't say it's because Roy has a 'glass jaw'. That would be taking away from Rocky's power, good chin or not, no modern SMW/LHW/CW (Hell, even some of the HW's) wouldn't be able to take Marciano's shot flush. Not even Andrade or Adamek :good
Roy would never be able to deal with Archie Moore's power no less Marciano....savage KO by Marciano.....But at lightheavy the mongoose would stop Roy's progress also Ezzard too strong for Jones
Was that Jones at his peak? No, it wasn't. Thje question is not whether Jones COULD take their punches, but whether they would actually land those bombs on Roy. If not, I see Jones outboxing Marciano easily.
This isnt really fair to Roy Jones. Marciano would take a while to catch him, would look awkward as hell, but he would hurt Jones terribly, much worse than Johnson or Tarver were able to do, and stop him brutally in 6.
Roy stays in it for a little bit due to speed, but then Rocky goes to work and brutalizes him mid-rounds.
Why? Not saying that isn't true, but you should probably explain. Rock went life-and-death with post-prime Charles (better than Jones IMO, though past-it) and Walcott, why wouldn't pre-Ruiz LHW Roy beat Marciano? If you think styles, then fine.
Pre or post Ruiz, Marciano's attack on Jones, however crude it may have been would have crippled Jones, with the cheif assault being on RJ's arms and the blood vessels in his arms. That would have set him up to be pulverized in the manner of Marciano-Charles II.
I don't much more to add that Tabin, Red Cobra and others haven't already said. I just don't think Jones had anything to slow Marciano down and keep him at bay. Marciano would land some shots and it was proven that Jones could be hurt at that weight. The whole pre post Ruiz theory is just speculation which was mostly perpetuated by Jones.