Roy Jones vs. Rocky Marciano

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    no way Jones, as talented as he was, could stand the heat, certainly not over 15 rounds.
     
  2. Raging B(_)LL

    Raging B(_)LL KAPOW!!! Full Member

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    Fifteen rounds is a long time to spend in the ring with as relentless and hardhitting an opponent as Marciano. Roy for all his skill doesn`t go a full fifteen rounds against Rocky, he`d get taken out sometime after the halfway mark of the fight, probably sometime in the last third of the fight I reckon. He`d make a complete ****** out of Rocky though most of the way, but eventually the pressure and relentlessness of Rocky`s free swinging aggression would start to see him land more on a tiring Jones and once this happens its only a matter of time until Rock catches up to him and puts him down for the count.
     
  3. sam1222

    sam1222 **** You. Full Member

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    marciano by KO. although its true, by todays rules if rocky gets cut it could go roy's way. but thats the only way i see jones winning and its a slim chance, marciano was always a better finisher when he knew he had to do it quick.
     
  4. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Marciano was in danger of stoppage against Charles because the cartilege of his nose had been ripped in half. This is a freak-of-nature injury, and provides no real evidence of a generalized weakness on Marciano's part; are you going to say, "I predict Jones wins a TKO when a one-in-a-billion uppercut rips the cartilege of Marciano's nose in half"? Moreover, according to some who were present at ringside, it was an elbow which split Marciano's nose, and as such under modern rules he would simply win a lopsided technical decision.

    2. Although Jones had good power at lighter weights, I do not believe he hit as hard as, say, Walcott, who was a hard-as-nails 196-pound natural heavyweight with power in either hand. Marciano's durability is simply exceptional- he was never stopped in any fight of any kind, amateur or pro, went 42 professional fights without suffering a knockdown, and was never down for more than a three-count in his career. As noted before, the only instance in any major fight in which Marciano was in any serious danger of a stoppage loss was the result of a one-in-a-million, struck-by-lightning-style fluke and was likely caused by a foul, too. In order to have a chance at knocking out Rocky Marciano, Jones would need to be far more aggressive than he could afford.

    3. Jones makes a habit of resting against the ropes for substantial time periods, which would be bordering on suicide against Marciano; see the Louis, Walcott, LaStarza and Moore knockouts.

    4. I believe your picture of the fight is badly oversimplified. Marciano was not a threat simply because he could take opponents out with one shot. Certainly he could do that, but he also broke opponents down, mashed them up with hundreds of body shots and arm shots and shoulder shots and even neck and kidney shots and the like, wore at them like waves on a sand castle until he had them wheezing for breath and sagging around the ring. Even opponents who were normally known to have good stamina tired unusually quickly against Marciano. Jones was quick, skilled and fleet of foot, but he couldn't keep up on a perpetual bicycle round after round. Marciano would swarm all over him against the ropes, beat his stomach and sides and batter at his guard, and Jones would start to slow more and more by the round.
     
  5. FromWithin

    FromWithin Living for the city Full Member

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    One thing for sure, if Marciano catches Jones with just one punch, it's lights out.
     
  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Marciano must be one of the most annoying fighters in history to battle. He looks easy to hit, but was deceptively hard to hit, and often met your offense with HARD countershots. On top of that, he always coming forward with a high volume of punches, KO power in both hands, and is almost impossible to knock out.
     
  7. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Great points provided very
    articulately

    Marciano value often overlooked but not by the keen boxing eye
     
  8. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Brilliant post :good
     
  9. Maxmomer

    Maxmomer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones wasn't tough enough to hang with The Rock. He gets stopped.
     
  10. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano charged with attempted murder after this fight...BRUTAL KO by The Rock!!!
     
  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Marciano was prone to cuts, and he was in danger of being stopped by Keene Simmons when his left eyebrow ripped open.Rocky marked up in quite a few fights.
    Marciano would put too much pressure on Jones and eventually stop him , in around 8 rds imo.
     
  12. downthatbottle

    downthatbottle Please don't ban me Full Member

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    I agree with all of this.
     
  13. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're knowledge of Moore is obviously limited to a boxrec review and film of Moore in his 40s.

    This post is nonsense -and is from someone who accuses others of "knowing little about boxing" and "bias". We just witnessed a man throw a rock at his own head.
     
  14. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seen a pic of the cut from the Simmons fight. It was not a bad cut. Maybe about less than the level of Charles 1 eye cut.
     
  15. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    You seem to put charles far above moore in terms of ability. Did you know Moore-Charles II was a Dead Even fight in most eyes, and Moore was ahead on the cards and nearly stopped charles in 3rd fight...not to mention moores other countless wins. I do rate charles higher, but Moore was very much near his level and deserves more credit than given here. I would not underestimate moore here. Was Roy Jones any better than say...Harold Johnson?