Roy Jones Vs today's best fighters, across 6 divisions.

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wondered how people would view this.

    I don't think Roy had many 154 fights, and he was only 20 at the time.
     
  2. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    How about the HW division? Id favour Roy of the Ruiz fight to beat these heavies.

    Arreola
    Adamek
    Peter
    Byrd
    Chambers
    They were all high ranked .
     
  3. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wladimir never looked better tbh. Smarter, faster and probably hits just as hard.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree!

    Someone told me a few months ago, that Roy would never have been able to have beaten Arreola. I think Roy would have been far too fast for him. I think an Adamek fight would have been good.
     
  5. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    They may have been high ranked Dino, but they're all a steaming pile of dog**** :oops::bananamaniac:oops:
     
  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Theres no doubt about that but Jones isn't a HW so it would be an impresive achievment.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr is a head to head monster he'd be favoured over practically everyone it's hard to pick against him during his prime years or even early on when he had a size and big power advantage over everyone.

    He was one of those rare fighters who just looked unbeatable for so long, how much of this was due to his lack of quality opposition or him simply being on another level is impossible to gauge. He only took 2 calculated risks during his prime years against Toney and Ruiz, every other opponent he faced was simply outmatched.

    Fact is rating Jones Jr ability and legacy should not be the difficult task it is. But he took the path of least resistance and chose to avoid or at least not chase the best at 168lbs and 175lbs and so we rarely saw him tested to gauge how good he really was. I think we only ever saw the best of Roy once in the rematch of Griffin, every other fight he was winning without having to push himself. Hate to see such talent not reach it's full potential.

    Roy should have been the Ray Leonard or Ray Robinson of his era but he will not be remembered as fondly as those to ATG's and his true standing will always be up for debate.
     
  8. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's difficult to gauge Roy at heavyweight because all we have to go on is the Ruiz fight.

    Personally, I think there was a strong element of finding the right opponent in Ruiz, who lacked the speed, workrate and intensity to wear Roy down. Although Ruiz showed sneaky power at times, he wasn't a heavy-handed guy or a huge heavyweight.

    Roy wasn't a big guy at all, even for a light-heavyweight. Even with the suspicious muscle mass gain for the Ruiz fight, there's only so much you can do with a frame that was never designed to carry any more than 175. He wasn't someone like a Moorer or a Spinks who could grow into a 210lbs heavyweight - he would always be physically limited as a heavyweight.

    I don't fancy Jones' chances at all against either of the Klits. I'd favour him over the smaller heavyweights like Adamek, Haye and Chambers (if moved back up). He'd have a decent chance against Povetkin, but I think he'd really struggle against any good 230lbs+ heavyweight. The issue is that there are few of them around, and Pulev for example is still relatively unproven.
     
  9. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    RJJ had amazing skills. He could do things that people could only do in computer games. He would beat everyone from 154-200. 50%-50% would be Mayweather, but thats down it not being RJJs natural weight and his lack of pro experience.
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    If the rules were enforced on Ruiz like they were when he fought Jones Ruiz would not beat one person on your list. Don't you find it kind of funny that was the only fight his holding was not allowed? :huh Very strange.

    What Jones did to Ruiz is not very impressive given how the fight was officiated he just sat back and pot shotted anytime Ruiz got close the referee immediately separated them.

    Jones beating Ruiz under those circumstances means nothing. Others had to deal with the Jab and grab with all the mauling, wrestling, clinching, grabbing, faking low blows, etc. Jones for some reason was spared all of that.
     
  11. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Adamek got slapped around and ultimately gifted against a one-handed Chambers.



    Roy of 2003 would have made him look outright silly. This would be the funniest fight of them all.
     
  12. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Roy's best fights would be:

    (1) Floyd
    (2) Hopkins
    (3) Ward
    (4) Sergio

    I don't think anything else would be even remotely competitive.
     
  13. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Reality check.

    Got KTFO by Antonio Tarver and jourmeyman Johnson.
     
  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    :deal
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    READ the thread. :good