Roy Jones Vs today's best fighters, across 6 divisions.

You have to remember that he was a 175 fighter, and he didn't know that Lennox was going to retire. Nobody knew that would definitely be the last time we'd see Lennox in a ring.

Type into google - thefreelibrary.com.

Then type in Roy Jones Jnr.

Then scroll down to all the articles dated in 2003. There's about 4 or 5 articles all with interesting things in.

Regarding Ruiz, he wasn't a worthless piece of ****. He was effective. If he'd have been complete garbage, he wouldn't have been champ and a top 5 guy.

Any decent ref should break two guys when there's holding.

Roy's speed and skills were too much for him, and he deserves credit for it.

 

Rico Spadafora,

No it doesn't matter. I don't care about Ruiz's stats at HW. He weighed 220 pounds, and was coming off of recent wins against Holy, who wasn't completely shot. Roy was a 175 fighter, he'd had 50 fights, he was 34, and nobody knew for sure, how the extra weight would affect him. No current SMW or LHW looks like going up. There was a valid reason why there'd been a 106 year gap. Any decent referee would break a guy for constant holding and hugging.

Ruiz wasn't HANDPICKED! Why don't you read the rest of the thread.

Spinks was a great fighter, but the circumstances were different. He was younger, more established at the weight, he hadn't had as many fights, and he worked is way up to Tyson. He'd also never fought at 160 like Roy.

No, he didn't.

List all the guys who he supposedly ducked, and we'll go through them.

Eubank, DM and Hopkins (rematch) didn't want to fight. A Holyfield fight was turned down because he no longer had the WBA belt at the time of discussions, a Tyson fight wasn't possible to make, Calzaghe was a nobody when Roy was prime, Benn and Liles were King fighters, and he wanted future options. He missed the great guys at 160 in the early 90's, because his Dad overprotected him, and had him fighting nobodies for peanuts.

So yes, he missed a lot of guys, but boxing politics and other circumstances were the cause.

You guys love to call him a serial ducker.

So show me proof that he ducked everyone and chose the path of least resistance.

The only two fighters he ducked/dismissed were Collins and Nunn.

 

Rico Spadafora,

There's no way of knowing what the outcomes would have been. HW's tend to hold more. I've seen Ruiz's opponents hold. Even great HW's hold sometimes. They're bigger guys, and it happens quite frequently. But you're just trying to find anything you can, to try and discredit Roy because you've got some sort of hate for him.

How can it have been a handpicked fight if he initially had talks with Holy just prior to the 3rd Ruiz fight late 2001??

If Holy had've won that fight, then Roy would have fought Holy in 2002. After Holy and Ruiz drew, Holy asked Roy if he still wanted the fight, and Roy declined. There were rumours of Roy fighting Holy from as early as 1997. So when he'd made his mind up that he was definitely moving up, Holy was his target. Roy made his mind to go up late in 2001, after the Daruisz M fight didn't get made.

But, even if it HAD have been a handpicked fight, he still deserves credit anyway. Nobody else has done it since, and it was ten years ago.

Roy vs Lennox was a possibility after the Vitali fight, when Lennox was weighing up his options. But in the end he decided to call it a day.

If you want some more information, then go to the freelibrary.com, type in Roy Jones Jr, and then scroll down to all of the articles from 2003. :good

 

Thanks! :good

 

Rico Spadafora,

He would have got KO'd in just about every fight?

Roy was the fastest fighter Ruiz ever fought, and Roy kept him in the centre of the ring. Lets say Ruiz could have held at every given opportunity, without being warned. Are you telling me that there'd have been a different outcome?

Wow!

You really do hate Roy don't you? Ha!

A HW boxer with NO skill at all, could never become a title holder.

I've told you many times, that Roy finally made the commitment to go up to heavy late 2001, and his initial target was Holyfield. If Holy had have beaten Ruiz in the 3rd fight, Roy would have fought him early in 2002. After the draw, Roy decided to take a mandatory at 175 and weighed up his options. After the Hopkins rematch wasn't able to be made, he fought Woods, and then targeted Ruiz afterwards.

Ha! So Roy had a glass jaw, but a 220 HW who'd floored Evander, wasn't a threat?

After the Ruiz fight, Roy targeted Tyson. While Murad was trying to make that fight, Antonio Tarver was constantly baiting Roy at every given opportunity. He'd crashed the Ruiz press conference, and he got under Roy's skin. When the Tyson fight fell through, he took Tarver's bait and had get back to 175.

Well you obviously DON'T remember the situation. How the **** was he never going to fight Holyfield?? They had numerous talks. Roy declined the fight, because there was no belt at stake. Roy Snr stopped the Buster Douglas fight from taking place, and it brought them together for the first time in many years. Roy at the time was only 28, so he knew he'd get another opportunity to go up, which of course is what happened. Buster was out of shape at that point, and lost to Savarese in a single round.

He didn't have a carefully crafted career. There's many valid reasons why certain fights didn't get made, and you can have the proof if you wish.

The Green and Lebedev knockouts came into his 40's, and he'd left HBO a long time before those fights. :good

 

What a well thought out response to what's being discussed.

That must have been quite a challenge for you.

 

Ha!

Keep posting, your ridiculous threads are highly entertaining.

Boring fights? Ha! In who's opinion? Yours.

I suppose the devastating 4th round knockout of Hill, from a brutal bodyshot was AVERAGE?

What about the Griffin knockout from a lead uppercut?