Roy Jones wants Pavlik vs Taylor winner!!!

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  1. albeziel

    albeziel Multi Viral C13 Full Member

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    Both Taylor and Pavlik can punch and put pressure on Roy, they aren't Tito in 170
     
  2. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I said it before, and I'll say it again. Pavlik doesn't need Roy Jones who would be 40 years old by the time the fight happened. Kelly needs to finish his business with Taylor, and then focus on cleaning out 160. After that it will be time to move up and clean house at 168. Pavlik/Jones would be meaningless.

    Boo
     
  3. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, since Roy wouldn't even be able to make Middleweight.

    Roy years ago at Middleweight? The Ghost hits nothing but air.
     
  4. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    Thanks for the compliment and I have to say, I like your Chico tribute as well!

    I think once Pavlik starts landing his big jab and bomb of a right, Taylor will remember what happen last time and will fold, somewhere around the 5th or 6th.

    If Taylor couldn't get rid of Pavlik with the bombs that he landed in the 1st fight, how will he do it the second time?
     
  5. Addie

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  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Jones can barely make 168lbs, let alone box at MW. How times have changed for Roy; one time he was the man & people wanted to box him, now it's Jones calling all the names out. Since his win over Trinidad, Roy has called out De La Hoya, Calzaghe & now Pavlik

    Jones wouldn't be able to beat Pavlik at Super Middle either.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones is just calling out everyone. Ignore him until he signs a contract. It's just how he is.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Tito has respectable power.

    Tito has respectable power but not at Super Middle and after a 2 year lay off.

    Have you ever seen anybody else put a beating on Joppy like Trinidad did?

    I'm talking today, now, which is when Jones wants to fight Pavlik. You ever seen a domination before that both Winky and Hopkins put on against Tito?

    Also, Pavlik doesn't have a spectacular chin and he gets sloppy.

    I think it's unfair to say Pavlik doesn't have a spectacular chin. If Roy Jones was hit by the flush shots that Taylor landed on him in their first fight, Roy would have been catching Z's. Pavlik got up, and knocked his man out.

    Roy is smart and I don't see him taking any risks, so, if he can manage to use his legs to stay away from Pavlik, he may see an opening in Pavlik's defense and hit him with right hand, especially over Pavlik's jab that begins a combination that ends up with Pavlik on the mat.

    Old Roy cannot run from Pavlik for 12 rounds, somewhere along the line he gets hit and if his two fuights against the average Johnson and Tarver are anything to go by, he goes down hard catching Z's.

    I don't think you can DEFENITIVELY say that Pavlik will knock Jones out, and the fight won't be at middleweight either.

    Nothing is definitive in boxing, but Jones cannot knockout Pavlik at this time in his career. Roy isn't a knockout artist, and Pavlik showed a good chin when he got hit by MONSTER shots in his fight with Taylor. Watch the reply, they were monster hits. Even at Super Middle or catch weight, Pavlik hits to hard, and Roy's glass jaw..is just that, made of glass.
     
  9. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Taylor punch choice was horrible. He let his man survive. Uppercuts would've been choice at that time. He doesn't know how to pick his punches well, unlike Pavlik who does.

    If I were you guys I would stop with this who thing, you are making Pavlik out to be WAY more than he is. Him and Taylor are at the same level, either one could win this. They both have the capacity to knock each other out.

    And look guys, Pavlik wasn't acting cute before he got hit by a straight right that rocked him pretty damn good, then the other punches came immediately after. The fact is he can be hurt by Taylor in the rematch so he has to bring his A game completely.
     
  10. ravi B

    ravi B Member Full Member

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    it is a testament to how good jones is that while being well past his best he could still give the top two middleweights a good fight
    he would lose though
     
  11. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it's not. Roy may have had good reflexes but he got hit from time to time. Stop being bias, the truth is Roy would lose at this stage of his career. In his prime he would completely destroy Pavlik and people would call him a bum. Roy WAS a knockout artist in his prime. You must've fo' got how dynamic he was. He wasn't a KO artist at Light heavy, but he could've been, he would KD people and wouldn't ofte finish them off, or try only when he was motivated to. However he was definitely a KO artist at MW and SMW.

    Roy wouldn't run from Pavlik in his prime, he would hit him from pretty much every angle with punches he would never see. If you are trying to tell me that Taylor has more power at MW/SMW then Roy did in his prime, then you are smoking that good ****.
     
  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Who the hell mentioned anything about prime. Roy wants the Pavlik vs Taylor winner, and I'm telling you the outcome if he had to fight Pavlik. I'm not being bias, Pavlik KO's Roy Jones in 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, or 2010. etc.
     
  13. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then stop making comments like he doesn't have power then. He has more power than Taylor, power is the last to go. I agree he gets KO'd. And your comments about his jaw capacity, lol, just seems like you were just pissing on Roy.
     
  14. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That may be true but it is also a fact that there were plans for Roy to take on JT before he fought Hanshaw - and since JT was moving up to SMW after the Spinks fight, Roy would definitely fight him either at 175 or 170... Now, that fight has to be marketable or else there's no point in doing it - that is where exactly Pavlik jumps up... Roy may have not been calling light-heavies for the PPV numbers and finantial reasons - there is not a good enough name ( besides Bernard) to fight at 175 so he has to call em from below... Of course, he loses and gets into serious danger either against Pavlik, Taylor or Calzaghe.
     
  15. Shadowbox39

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    Not sure you guys are giving Roy the credit he deserves after the fight with Tito....I am sure most of you heard the thumping sound that Tito's body shots made when they landed....hard to say Tito doesn't have respectable power...he just never landed any clean shots on Roy's chin....which is the point of a great defense! Another good point to note is that Tito's defense was superb in the fact that he did not leave himself open for most of the fight either...he came in at Roy behind his gloves and threw when Roy covered up....very safe fighting strategy for Tito. When Roy decided to throw, Tito couldn't even see the punches coming in as they were blazing...now, if Roy was to fight Pavlik, I think their would be even more "holes in defense" for Roy to expose. Roy has always gotten his knockdowns by hitting his opponents with shots they do not see....as was the case in the Tito fight. And finally, you are leaving out he mental edge that Roy gains on an opponent by hitting them with shots they cannot see...say what you like, but getting hit with a powerful three hit combo you didn't see coming will rattle even the strongest fighters....I have never seen Tito back up as much as he did in the later rounds of his fight with Roy...that says alot to me. Again, just stating some of my own opinions.