Roy Jones was exceptional but did not take on all styles

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's known for his wins over Toney and Hopkins. The performance over Toney was probably the top performance of the 1990s.

    But Hopkins was a relatively unatheltic negative boxer. And Toney was a relatively unatheltic boxer-puncher. I think Jones has shown that just sitting back and trying to pick him off or spoil just wouldn't cut it against him.

    But when did he ever fight a mean, rough rider? An excellent brawling, pressure fighter? Where is that style of fighter on his resume?

    Like a Nigel Benn, McClellan, Hagler, Lamotta or Golovkin?

    That's why he's not the best ever like some say he was. He never did it against a great pressure fighter. A rough and rugged, high workrate brawler.
     
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  2. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He's not the best ever because he got caught with PEDS. Do we really know how good Roy Jones is?! No we don't it's impossible since we don't know for how long he had been cheating
     
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  3. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Not at 28 he wasn't. And James Toney was one of the best High School Qbs in Michigan. Had a scholarship offer to play running back at MICHIGAN. He went to boxing full time after beating up Dion Sanders at an All-America game.

    Pressure fighters:

    Jorge Vaca
    Jorge Castro
    Merqui Sosa
    Trinidad

    and of course

    John Ruiz.
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is true. But it was just unfortunate circumstances. Guys like Collins were swept aside to pursue better fights, and fights with Benn and Dariusz were extremely hard to make. It sure would have been interesting to see how Roy would have reacted.
     
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  5. Nat Turner

    Nat Turner Member banned Full Member

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    You're a moron.
     
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  6. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    He beat Jorge Castro, Middleweight, 70-3 going into the fight, has a top chin, and ended up beating the likes of Reggie Johnson x 2, John David Jackson etc.
    An underrated win because Castro broke his hand relatively early, but it was looking good for RJJ either way.
     
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  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Just saw that JDJ Ko in another thread, he got very lucky though because he was about to get stopped himself, and waaaay behind on the cards.
    If the fight had been in Britain, JDJ would have already won ;)
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/all-time-knockouts-showtime-championship-boxing.578990/
     
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  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I pick Roy to KO Benn as Nigel walks in. Benn didn't have the chin to pressure Jones. Now Hagler from the Hearns fight. I just can't see Jones Jr handling that aggression and chin.
     
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd have given Benn a 4 round window to get the job done.

    I think Roy's speed would have caused Marvin huge trouble.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Do you lurk and only post when people talk **** about Jones?
     
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm currently active in 5 threads. Although what difference does it make to you??
     
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  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    The thing about Jones was his main asset was his athleticism. He had a pitiful Glass Jaw and also had no Plan B in a fight. When things weren't going his way he didn't really know what to do. His resume has serious holes when compared to the fighters that were available to him and he definitely steered clear of power punchers and for good reason. We all saw why.
     
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  13. Jon Saxon

    Jon Saxon Active Member Full Member

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    Chin was a rock in lower weights so STFU fanboy.
     
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  14. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He got caught with peds later in his career. You and losers like the op are always trying to knock his career. get over it. Roy was great. End of story. stop hating
     
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  15. Havoctka

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    He would have whip sissy boy Triple g butt.
     
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