Roy Jones - Who Would You Choose...

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  1. Russell

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    To upset a prime super middle Jones?
     
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  2. McGrain

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    Archie Moore.
     
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  3. Russell

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    How would Archie manage it, do you think?
     
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  4. McGrain

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    Well Archie is one of the greatest punchers that ever lived, the KO king. The thing about Jones is you must hit him, you can't outbox him. How do you hit him when you can't outspeed him (and almost no-one can)? You must use smarts, feints, intelligent countering and most of all feint fake opportunities to provide countering opportunities.

    Moore was absolutley the expert at all of these things, perhaps to the exclusion of every other boxer - the best ever.

    With his astonishing durability and stamina, Moore could conievabley lose 12 rounds and then score that shot. Moore by KO.

    To be fair though, Moore was never good enough at 168 to get the job done, it was later he got good enough. So this would have to be prime Jones having his first fight at 175.

    At 168 proper, maybe give him Greb?
     
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  5. Sweet Pea

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    I think Jones schools Moore, I mean nearly shuts him out, Toney style. Me and McGrain have argued this over and over. He thinks Moore would lead Jones on and KO him on the way in. I think Jones is far too fast and could easily pot shot on Moore all day. If Patterson stood right in front of him and managed to not get caught, Jones's much more conservative approach does the trick. Moore is simply too stationary, and not quick enough to catch Jones, considering Jones's speed and unorthodox style is the worst possible style for a stationary counter-puncher.

    If Moore won, it would be on a one shot KO. I give Charles a much better chance than Moore, but at 175, not 168.

    At 168, I favor Jones over all, but Greb is a possibility. Jones at that weight may well be the one to negate a lot of Greb's attributes though.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Yeah, Greb...you got to wonder how Langford would go too. Jones would certainly need to do 12/15 hard rounds to get the job done...
     
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  7. Russell

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    So, sans somewhat obvious and already debated answers like Greb and Moore...

    Who else?
     
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  8. McGrain

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    Nobody really. 168 isn't a heavily explored weight, there are guys at 160 you might pick and 175, but at 168, it's such a young division and you can't confidently move people up or down because weight is an issue and Jones is a monster.
     
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  9. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Totally agree. At super middle, I think that I would take Jones over anyone...(I also agree that Moore would eventually catch Jones at light heavy) :good
     
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  10. Sweet Pea

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    BAH!
     
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  11. SteveO

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    Ray Leonard?
     
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  12. Sizzle

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    It's a long list to be honest.

    Current fighters I'd favour are Joe Calzaghe, and a prime Bernard Hopkins.

    Throughout history there are too many to list. Moore, and Charles are good picks though.
     
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  13. Sweet Pea

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    At SuperMiddle? He would get destroyed.
     
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  14. Sweet Pea

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    You'd favor Calzaghe over a prime Jones? Too many to list at 168? Please list them. I consider it a very short list, but then again, you consider Floyd better than Roy.

    edit: Nevermind, I've argued with you before on these points, you're the Jones hater.
     
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  15. dpw417

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    Right back atcha.
    Not even Superman in the comics won all the time...:yep
    Being the very best in the super middles is not a bad thing.
     
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