Roy Jones would've killed Ray Leonard at Super Middlweight...Fact!

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You are exaggerating. How can you say that people sound stupid when they involve him in fantasy fight threads at WW? Floyd is also an ATG WW. He first fought there 10 years ago when he was 28. Also, one of the biggest wins of his career, was up at LMW against Oscar. So you shouldn't have an issue.
     
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  2. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Leonard is rated higher because he beat far better.competition. Ray would have destroyed Floyd at 147, 154 and 160, a weight Floyd has shown no desire to rise to.
     
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  3. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd has been at 147 longer than any weight in his career. But I guess if its stupid to compare Floyd to Ray at welter than its ridiculously stupid to compare Ray to Roy at 168. Bottom line is only one of these fighters have beaten several ATG's and its neither Floyd nor Roy.
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I can't see what the issue is with including Floyd in fantasy fights at WW.
     
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  5. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    People have no problem putting Roy in fantasy fights at HW even though he fought there only once at the very end of his prime. I see no issue either, Floyd is a great WW.
     
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  6. jesse

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    There isn't an issue in my opinion. But with SRL/RJJ, SRL was not nearly at his best at 168. Mayweather on the other hand has had great performances at all weights he has fought for the most part.
     
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  7. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree that ray would give floyd the pounding of a lifetime
     
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  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I haven't seen many people put Jones in Fantasy fights at Heavyweight. I have seen people mention that he essentially wasted his time with Ruiz and if he wanted to make History he should have fought Lennox.

    I see Jones getting knocked out at Light Heavyweight in several ATG fantasy fights. I see him getting beat at a few Super Middleweight fantasy fights (division is really lacking and it isn't that old really). I see him getting knocked out at Middleweight in fantasy fights.

    It isn't worth the time to put him in Heavyweight fantasy fights.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Aug 25, 2015
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  9. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I know you feel this way.

    But that is exactly my point.. Roy gets criticized for not fighting Lennox. A major mismatch.
     
    Mind Reader, Aug 25, 2015
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  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree entirely.
     
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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Correct. Which is why the TS has chosen the wrong example to illustrate his point.
     
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  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who do you think would have beaten Roy at SMW?
     
    Loudon, Aug 25, 2015
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  13. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You clearly don't know **** about boxing. Floyd's first 27 fights were at super feather which is his prime weight. His remainign 21 fights were spread across 4 weight classes.
     
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  14. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd went through 5 divisions which is exaclty the same as Leonard idiot. So what exactly is your point
     
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  15. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My problem isn't simply the fantasy fight. My problem is people who try to judge his whole career off WW, and use that as the barometer for measuring his whole career and ATG status.
     
    boxsensei, Aug 25, 2015
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