Roy Jones

I dont care at all what the alphabet bodies etc. think , and if you do then you need help. I bet you the ring wont have him in there . They are respectable

 

Hopkins and Archie Moore are the kings of retaining ability into old age - Roy Jones is not even close.

Winky Wright devoured Felix Trinidad three years ago, and he hasn't fought since - Trinidad fought the majority of his career as a welterweight, and couldn't be considered a top100 current P4P fighter, not even close.

He wanted a big payday after having sat on his ass for three years (the public needed time to forget/overlook his abysmal display Vs Wright), and he got it - He knew Jones was a shell of the fighter of he once was, so it was easy money and he didn't even have to suffer half as bad a beating as he got against Wright or Hopkins.

So lets reserve judgement until he faces off with a serious contender, but I suspect we'll see a repeat of the Glen Johnson/Antonio Tarver embarrassments.

For those who think this version of Roy Jones can compete with Hopkins,Calzaghe or even Kessler - Then Jones must be your "hero"

 

When he's firing, Roy looks great. The problem is, he has neither the movement(his legs seem to have left before his hands) nor the stamina to be a true player against the elite. His handspeed is still there, but not much else. Someone like Calzaghe, with his workrate, would handle him at this stage.

 

That is my thought with regards to Hopkins also, he doesn't have the workrate to compete with Calzaghe.

If he picks his opponents properly I think Roy Jones might manage a few more credible wins before hanging his gloves up, but if he chases fighters of the calibre of Calzaghe, Dawson, Kessler and even Jermain Taylor at this stage, there's a good chance he's going to be more than just handled.

 

I still disagree with you. His handspeed is still there, but apart from that his athletic ability is greatly diminished, much like any 39 year old fighter including Bernard Hopkins.

I think he has made some "technical adaptations", he looked pretty good covering up in close in that Winky Wright fashion, Tito struggled to land anything of significance in the mid-rounds, but a faster sharper puncher would have a lot more luck.

We'll see how he does when he steps up in competition

 

And what is there i can say , i dont agree with it , and i always liked the ring , but they also have Winky at number 1 at mw , when hes done nothin there except get a gift draw against JT. Oscar owns the ring now , golden boy are obviously using the rankings to justify a Hokins-Jones bout sometime.

This is the only explanation , Jones logically not a top-10 LHW RIGHT NOW , you have read my posts and you know it

 

Age has caught up with Roy. He does not have the workrate he once had, the foot speed, or the reflexes. He has a habit of laying on the ropes and letting his opponent work which is very bad.

Roy would be best advised by me, if I was his manager, to keep on taking big money no risk fights like Trinidad or to retire and concentrate on his promoting and other business interests.

He was without doubt the greatest fighter of the 1990's. He owned that decade and his achievments in the ring and titles he won, and also the manner and dominating fashion of his victories make him one of the greatest ever boxers of the modern era.

 

I guess you won that one!

Number 7 isnt bad. Clinton woods is 3.

Does Roy fancy fighting Clinton again. After the beautiful one sided beat down he gave Clinton all those years ago. Although credit to Clinton he had a go and showed heart in that one.

 

Im not picking a argument here , but you have probably read the whole of mine and rekcutnevets' debate here , you must agree with me , it is absurd to have Roy in the top-10 at LHW RIGHT NOW . I know he would still maybe beat most of the top-10 and is one of the est fighters ever imo. But just read our full debate , if you still agree with it then thats fine , be reasonable and logical though

 

I agree with you that it is absurd that based on what Roy has done over the last 2 years, for him to be rated a top 10 LHW fighter.

However I expected him to be in the top 10 ratings. Due to Roys undisputed and undefeated status at that weight it understandable that this has inflated his rating. Ratings should be based on recent performances and recent results.

 

Thank you, good to see there are some rational thinkers around here