Roy Jones.

I guess my point was Jones fought McCallum on that date after they couldn't get anyone else under 175. He wasn't HBOs first choice after the Brannon fight.

Hopkins wasn't established you're right, Jones would have been a huge favorite. I remember seeing the odds at 15-1.

 

What are you talking about? That fight wasn't controversial. McCallum was aging, on the slide and got beat up by an inferior fighter with a poor performance. He was no longer regarded as a top man in the divison (Maske and Hill were), he was done when Jones got him for the interim title. DONE!

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tho8uyussXM[/url]

 

Hilarious. We are reminded so many times in this thread of how Jones was on the slide when he suffered his losses. How only a handful of guys like Moore and Hopkins stayed great in their late 30s.

Than these same posters are hyping a win over a 40 year old man, no longer rated at the top of the divison, and had just lost his title after getting knocked around the ring as a win over AN ALL TIME GREAT! And totally fabricated claims of controversial decisions.

Get out of here.

 

Can someone explain the controversy to McCallum over Tiozzo, other than McCallum was really old and looked it?

Do Roy Jones fans fabricate absolute nonsense and think we dont' remember this **** on Showtime?

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B24FbhV9Ss[/url]

 

The McCallum win meant nothing for Jones.

It was an easy step up for a vacate paper title over an old name.

Smoke and Mirrors people, smoke and mirrors.

:deal

 

i know i am probably in the minority as roy jones fans are very much like floyd mayweather fans and its impossible to reason with them . but i just dont think the guy was as great as you all make him out to be , he ended his career with 8 losses , is that really legendary status , i dont think so .

 

If you focus on only the losses, you ignore everything else he did.

 

Now I don't think that criticism is fair.

Jones is really undefeated in what could be considered his prime run. I think he is an all time great but his resume is certainly lacking in contrast with the other all time great weight jumpers.

Reasons not entirely his own but still partially his, he somehow only managed to make one super fight in a decade long career that spanned 4 star studded weight classes.

 

Not sure there was a true super fight to make at 175 (or 168 really). Not on the level that the Toney fight was. Sports Illustrated did a great piece on Jones after the Toney fight.

Also, the tuxedo outfits were the best.

 

You're damn right, it is f*cking stupid!

What's fair about a fighter having to LOSE weight, to fight a guy who he's already BEATEN, for half of the purse??

Ha!


Yes, Roy went and fought Woods.

But then he fought Ruiz and Tarver which were meaningful fights.


What did Hopkins do?

He fought Hakker and Joppy.


Most of Roy's big wins were fantasy fights?

Right.

 

Who's hyping the McCallum win?

 

What's wrong with you?

Who is celebrating the win?

The win wasn't a great win, but it opened up a door for him.

It gave him a belt in a new division, which got him closer to guys like Hill.

 

atsch


Oh no!

He's ended up with 8 losses.

So we'll just ignore everything he did from 89-2004?

We'll ignore the 49-1 record that he compiled, across 5 divisions?

How old are you?


How many losses did Duran have?


You can't reason with us?

Not with logic like that you can't.

 

His resume is as good as any other fighter, who fought in the same era and the same weight divisions.

Why don't you list all these fights that were viable, that would have enhanced his legacy.

How are you going to compare other fighters who weight jumped, with what Roy did?

Everyone's circumstances are different.

 

That's right.

SRL was part of the Fab Four.

Manny, MAB, Morales and JMM had each other.

Roy's main rival was DM.

But would fighting DM, have been any better than beating Ruiz and Tarver, all things considered?