ROY Mentioned some significant things with regards Weight loss!

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  1. thePRESIDENT

    thePRESIDENT Active Member Full Member

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    ...He said at Heavyweight you have a far less punch output.

    I think Byrd who fought at heavy for so long would have struggled to adapt to a higher punch output+speed @ Light heavy.


    Also on the weight making issue, It would legitimise what Roy said, it effected him when losing 25lbs. Byrd even had 6 months to prepare and look what happened.

    Another fighter whos punch resistance was effected is Manny Pacman, remember at FLyweight? he got Kod by 1 punch
     
  2. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

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    After my dad told me byrd look bad and got ko, the first thing I said was Jones really has a legit excuse now
     
  3. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Jones Jr always had a legit excuse, not to mention he was in there with two punchers who have both shown even recently that they can beat the best in the division.

    Jones Jr isn't as shot as people think he is and should he get the chance to prove it, I think people are gonna be shocked.
     
  4. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

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    Damn, you know boxing just like what we talk about yeterday as far a Calzaghe and Pavlik. But I really think Jones has a legit chance of beating Joe and people just dont want to see go out on top and have some new talent take the belt.
     
  5. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Lets put it this way, if Calzaghe faces Pavlik, I put a crapload down on Calzaghe.

    If Jones Jr faces Calzaghe, I keep my money in my bank account because I cannot honestly and accurately make a pick in that fight.

    I'll just say this though, Hanshaw, Tito and Ajamu since coming back don't represent Top 10 competition, but the way in which Jones was able to win against them represents him being Top 10 competition and a solid enough guy to give Calzaghe a challenge.
     
  6. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

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    All those 3 fights Jones carried his oppents to make a show imo. I even thought in Tarver 3 he could had won easily, but he was just acting strange in that fight. I just what Pavlik vs Mckart today. He said Pavlik is not a devastating one punch fighter, its just he hits hard all the time and its takes a toll. With him being one d. I really see Calzaghe having easy work. Jones has alot of tools
     
  7. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Jones Jr vs Tarver in the third fight seemed timid and a little too afraid to back himself, since then, I think he got rid of that against Ajamu, was just keeping the fight going against Hanshaw and at any time could have put Tito away.

    Roy fears hurting people, I think that's been his major issue ever since the G-Man incident, Tarver 3 is the only fight that I felt Jones Jr went into the ring doubting himself and his ability, even in his comeback fights, that RJJ is back.

    Against Calzaghe, if he feels he's in a fight, who knows how he'll respond. One thing boxing history has taught us, never count out an ATG having one last hooray.
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones was hurt against Trinidad. That's why he didn't put Trinidad away. His words.
     
  9. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Link?

    I remember the post fight interview where he clearly said "I respected Tito in there, I didn't want to be reckless, there were a few times I could have put him away but I didn't want to hurt the guy"
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Torn bicep and tendon.
     
  11. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yeah, I don't remeber those exact comments from the tito fight but I've defenitily heard Jones say on plenty of ocasions over the years that he held back because he didn't want to hurt the other guy. He's a very decent guy at heart and his drive to be a great boxer isn't to get out of a rough home or fight his way out of poverty. He doesn't have a huge chip on his shoulder and he's very christian. His drive to be the best is just in his desire to be great and not to beat the **** out of whoever they put in front of him. The Bryant Brannon fight is the best example of this that sticks out in my mind.
     
  12. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Interesting stuff:good Didn't know that stuff about his bicep. And **** jones is still a character.
     
  13. PugilisticPower

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    Didn't state that he was hurt by Tito at all though... and regardless of that bicep which he said he had before the fight, he had Tito shook up several times in that fight.

    I think the best example of Roy being scared of hurting a fighter in the ring is the fight he had that the proceeds went to G-Man against Brannon. He looked at the ref and practically told him to stop the fight, he wouldn't, then he hit Brannon down and looked distinctively pissed after it, almost annoyed that he had to do that.
     
  14. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I never stated that Tito hurt him. I said Jones was hurt and that's why didn't stop Trinidad. I cannot find the particular interview, but Jones said he couldn't get after Trinidad once he hurt him because of the bicep.

    Yes, the Brannon fight is an example of him not wanting to hurt a fighter. He has always been that way, even in the amateurs.
     
  15. PugilisticPower

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    Apologies dude, I read "Jones was hurt against Trinidad" and took it for it's normal meaning in boxing terminology, not the carrying an injury meaning.

    I think he became extra cautious after that point and very much became about the money, not the legacy. Prior to that, he had fought some of the toughest young names around in the sport.