Rubin Carter dead

I'm not 100% sure he was innocent, but some things made me wonder. Whatever, it is sad news..........................

 

Quoted for posterity!

 

It didn't apply, the 2nd trial in 1976 was because they ruled that Carter and Artis did not receive a fair trial, which every defendant is entitled to.

Two witnesses, Bello and Bradley, testified at the first trial that they saw Carter and Artis at the crime scene. Bello recanted the testimony years later and said he and Bradley had been offered leniency (they were burglars) if they testified against Carter and Artis. There was an audio recording of the offers made, The defense team said that the prosecution had hidden the audio recoding and did not disclose that info with the defense team, as they should have.

The guilty verdict was overturned and he received a second trial. But the defense case was shitty. Bello went back to his original testimony that Carter and Artis were there. Carter's ex-girlfriend had testified on his behalf in the first trial and said Carter was with her at the time the murders took place. But at the 2nd trial, she testified that she had been lying to try to help him and that she wasn't with him.

2 other people testified that Carter had asked them to lie and give him an alibi. Carter and Artis were found guilty again.

A few years later Carter's team filed a Habeus Corpus saying that the prosecution was based on "racism rather than reason". The judge granted it in their favor.

The prosecutors wanted another trial, but the Supreme Court chose not to do another trial, so Carter was released.

 

Carter got screwed big time. But some sort of Hollywood angel he was very far from.

 

Rubin, was not angel by any means, but what was clear he was convicted solely on his race!! Look at the evidence.

 

bought 3 books on rubin yesterday, 3 on ray robinson too!!

 

good for you. now go and read them.atsch

 

He coulda been the champion of the world.

 

rip

 

I see the racists are still trying to get him after he's dead even in this thread

 

As a fighter, Carter was a good solid contender who could occasionally spring a big upset. The one round stoppage of Griffith was pretty dramatic, and has some nice wins over Benton and Florentino Fernandez. In truth, he didn't really come close to defeating Giardello in his one crack at the championship and was apparently on the slide by the time he was arrested, but for a while he a legitimately tough out for just about anyone to face in a pretty deep middleweight division.

As for outside the ring, it seems pretty apparent that he wasn't a saint by any stretch of the imagination. Still he did advocate for those who had been wrongfully convicted upon release from prison; and did so throughout the remainder of his life. Something to be said for that.

So, hope he can rest in peace. He may not have been everything the bio-pic about him claimed he was, but there was enough truth behind it to ensure the warrants some form of remembrance.

 

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Kevin Willis is the biggest racist on this site. I've never seen him say anything good about someone Black.

 

What evidence is that?

2 of the jury members were black the 2nd time he was found guilty.

His career as a contender was over went he went to prison.

He does however, hold a victory over Emile Griffith, arguably the fighter of the 60s. Ali was more consistent in the 60s than Emile, but Griffith has the deeper resume.

 

Study, the us justice system white boys, before you comment!! Where, was the forensic evidence, why was evidence hidden from the defence?

 

no doubt, I see these other racist alts getting deleted, but his account is still here :conf