rubin carter vs bennie briscoe 15 rounds mw

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  2. the brown bomber

    the brown bomber Active Member Full Member

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    Maybe Carter wins? I have no idea really but it would be a great fight to watch
     
  3. i agree 100%
     
  4. klompton

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  5. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carter is more dynamic, quicker, and more explosive. Briscoe is much more likely to grind someone down through attriction. In the past, I've felt comfortable picking Carter outright because of his speed advantage and the power he generated by torquing his punches...the man had some serious leverage on some short, compact punches. For a brief period, Carter was a very dangerous man. But what about Briscoe? A twenty year career, fighting the same come forward 'seek and destroy' style, almost impossible to hurt, never gets discouraged, just keeps coming after you...In a close fight, Carter has success from the early to midrounds, landing dynamite, but Briscoe will keep chugging forward, digging to the body and pushing Carter faster than he wants to go. In a ten rounder, Carter would hang on to take a decision...in a fifteen rounder, Brsicoe closes the gap and wins...Briscoe is the stronger man at the finish at either distance. Two vicious middleweights in a great fight. A possible key to Briscoe's success would be if he were able to establish his jab, and back Carter up with it during the early part of the fight...if he were able to do this, he would make it very hard for Carter to set himself to deliver. The Briscoe who was on form against Eddie Gregory (Mustafa Muhammad) and Tony Mundine might have been able to pull this off.
     
  6. i doubt it seriously, they both were very strong men but carter was clearly more ripped and muscular.
     
  7. klompton

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    I see it a little different. Carter was a bit of a front runner in that if he couldnt knock you out and you werent a runner, he ran out of ideas. He isnt KOing Briscoe and Briscoe is right there in his face all night. When it came to being a tough, badass Briscoe was the man. Carter was more of a ghetto bully who once you stood up to him he didnt have a plan B. It would be exciting while it lasted but I favor Briscoe to wear him down.

    P.S. Being ripped and Muscular doesnt necessarily mean you are stronger. Id probably favor Briscoe in the strength department as well. He was a steam engine that just kept chugging forward.
     
  8. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I definitely think Briscoe would be the stronger man at the end of the fight, and would be backing Carter up at that point in the fight...also agree that Carter was a frontrunner at times, but very determined. Tiger trounced him, but he never stopped trying. Briscoe was bad news.
     
  9. PhillyPhan69

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    The "Bad One" no doubt!
     
  10. red cobra

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    Briscoe was tougher...more "real" if you will...he'd grind down Carter after taking his best...either a decision or a late tko. Ultimately Briscoe was badder than the Hurricane.
     
  11. slip&counter

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    Briscoe decision. Watching Carter against someone as skilled as Georgie Benton shows how well he could impose his game though. I think Briscoe had more facets and was the better fighter IMO. He would have slowed down Carter with his vicious body attack. Great fight though between two very tough men.
     
  12. klompton

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    Its always been rumored that Carters wins over Mims and Benton were fixed. Either way Benton didnt have the same style as Briscoe, its hard to compare what Carter did in that fight with what he would do againts Briscoe. A closer comparison would be the Tiger fight. Not saying Briscoe was as good as Tiger but Tiger was a physically strong, hard punching fighter that Carter simply could not budge. I think hed have similar difficulty with Briscoe. Briscoe was the type of guy that just kept chugging forward, landing blows, and by about the middle rounds the punches that you were slipping, ducking, or catching, you would be getting hit with. Thats going to a problem for Carter. Another factor is that carter cut and I could see the fight getting stopped on a cut in the late rounds as Briscoe began to land more and more frequently.
     
  13. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really? If you asked me to name the most effective, but entirely one-paced fighter Briscoe's name would be up there. He fought the exact same way in every fight, regardless of the opponent.
     
  14. slip&counter

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    Compared to Carter he was...maybe poor choice of words, but Briscoe had more variety then Rubin and that's one of the things that would make the difference in this match-up IMO. He also did the same things as Carter but much better. Carter was flawed several times by lesser fighters, Briscoe was just more of a beast then Carter and a legit great puncher, especially to the body. Thinking about it more i think Briscoe would win relatively comfortably.
     
  15. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not necessarily disputing that Briscoe would win, I just don't think he was the more varied of the two by any means. Carter, during his short peak, was a very good boxer-puncher, not just a puncher. He actually had very good punching technique and was capable of holding his own not only during the punching exchanges, but the boxing exchanges as well. Briscoe was always a full-steam ahead pressure fighter. He'd bob and weave his way in before bodying his man and winging hooks to the body and head. Then he would repeat the cycle.

    Both were great punchers, but I'd pick Carter as the more explosive of the two in that regard, actually.