Rubin Carter

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  1. Super_Fly_Sam

    Super_Fly_Sam Aus Boxer Full Member

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    I was just watchin the Hurrincane movie last night....

    and to me it seemed as though he was made out to be an awsome fighter..

    was he really that good?? could he have been a great champ if he wasnt locked up??
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Good but limited. He was enormously strong and a violent type, but as far as I can see he could only do one thing well.

    It would be no fun to be in with him, put it that way. Unless you were Dick Tiger of course.

    He was also a really nasty peice of work - the film only scratches the surface of that uncomfortable truth. He supposedly told the Emile Griffith that "he was like a woman who wanted to be raped" which is an interesting choice of words.
     
  3. Super_Fly_Sam

    Super_Fly_Sam Aus Boxer Full Member

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    So he was just like a savage beasty type of fighter???...

    not one who could really change up his style a modify himself to suit his opposition??
     
  4. Nemesis

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    He's a ****, he hates boxing nowadays
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well he has a trunk load of losses. Yes, basically, I think if you bring the right fight plan he could be beaten, he doesn't seem at all adaptable to me. Not all of his losses are at the top level.

    It seems that Tiger was able to out-muslce him but maybe that would be all in that department. I'd say that he has been overated off the back of the movie. A good, not a great fighter.
     
  6. Super_Fly_Sam

    Super_Fly_Sam Aus Boxer Full Member

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    Oh Ok fair enough... but he really did beat that fulla for the world title and get robbed ay?? coz he did get presented with the belts when he got out of jail


    and i herd that he was being sued by the guy who
     
  7. Super_Fly_Sam

    Super_Fly_Sam Aus Boxer Full Member

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    Why?
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    I'll go an extra yard and say he was also overrated dating way earlier off the strength of the Bob Dylan song, "Hurricane" from 1975.

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  9. McGrain

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    It's a decent enough choone though.
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    Bloody fantastic. Goes for about near 9 minutes, i play it at the local for two reasons, one it's great and two it's length makes it fantastic value :D
     
  11. McGrain

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    Plus it irratates the **** out of anyone who doesn't know their history. Get a lot of "what", "who".
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    Hahahaha fair enough. I actually put at least two guys onto it by playing the sucker.
     
  13. Nemesis

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    he's turned into some pacifist, looking for the abolition of boxing because of ring fatalities, I think it happened just after the Duk Koo Kim - Ray Mancini fight
     
  14. Thread Stealer

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    Carter's career as a contender was finished by the time he went to prison.

    Carter was by most accounts a p.o.s., but I need to do more research about the case. I've heard different opinions regarding it.
     
  15. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually Giardello won the fight fairly easily. And it was Joey's family who sued (and won) the makers of the movie, because it suggested that Carter was robbed (which was not true), and further more that Giardello was boo'd in Phillidelphia, which is laughable as Giardello was a demi god there.

    Carter was given his WBC belt in recognition of his life's struggles.

    If you want to know more about Carter then Hurricane: The life of Rubin Carter, fighter by James S Hirsch could be a good starting point.