Rubio is a solid challenger.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I knew Rubio would lose but I really wanted him to win, but don't you think that was a questionable punch, I don't think a shot directly on top of the head should count.:patsch
     
  2. The Masked Man

    The Masked Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  3. WildStyle

    WildStyle J.C. Penny's belt $2.99 banned

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    I said repeatedly that Rubio could not afford to get caught up going to the ropes and that's exactly what happened. He tried fighting off of the back foot and it was over before it ever really began.
     
  4. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    you cant be serious :patsch
     
  5. Robney

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    Well, that actually makes a lot of sense BE. And additional points for use of the :ahhhh smiley :yep
     
  6. Robney

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    the guy posting it should upgrade his internet connection but hey, it's there
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I think Rubio was shaken up pretty badly and discombobulated from a shot that compacted head down between his shoulders, I don't give a **** what anybody says GGG drove that shot down really hard almost jumping up and punching down, that should be illegal shot, it has the same effects as a rabbit punch, it could have broken Rubio's neck or caused an injury to his brain stem.
    GGG would have won anyway....Yes. But Rubio should have been given a few seconds to recover and shake off the effects.
    I've been hit in the back of the head and on top of the head they both have the same effect, it messes up your equilibrium.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I couldn't believe how people tried to rate Rubio so highly going into this match up.

    His list of "top 3 victories," or top 5 or top 10 are lousy compared to other top 10 fighters in other divisions. And Rubio was consistently billed as legit for being (over)ranked by publications like The Ring. Most people haven't seen him aside from his bouts with Pavlik, Lemieux, and Chavez Jr. but even if that was the case they should have seen how stiff and limited he is. Styles favored Golovkin all day. I said in the "weigh in thread" for this fight that everyone building him up will be "shocked at how little resistance he gives Golovkin."
     
  9. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hoped that you did. Now you looked worse because yes Rubio is a faded bum.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I still wouldn't call him a bum, or even say he is particularly faded, based on the other night.

    Are you forgetting the 1st round? I think you are, or at least you're pretending it didn't happen. Rubio took flush shots from Golovkin and came right back at him, numerous times. He it took it to Golovkin, and of course that may have contributed to him absorbing so much damage and eventually not wanting any more, but still - for three minutes it was shaping up to be exactly the contest anyone with faith in Rubio thought it could be.

    Does my pumping him up as being a solid challenger only to have it go down like it did really look all that damning? Eh. Kind of, technically - but when you get down to it that was, if not physically, then mentally not a 100% Rubio. The fact that he bailed out when it seemed he could go on, as well as his inability to make weight - tells us he wasn't totally committed to coming to win. That's on him (and Golovkin's stupidly ridiculous power) - more than on me. The fact that he was so competitive in the 1st - even in spite of not being super committed to winning - speaks to him being a solid challenger more than subsequently quitting speaks to him being a "bum".

    Had the next eleven rounds gone like the first, even adding up to a 120-108 shutout where all twelve were competitive but still clear to Golovkin, nobody would have anything disparaging to say about Rubio.

    As it stands, the worst things you can say are that he didn't come in top shape and on weight - and that he may have bottled it once hurt. Getting hurt and dropped by Golovkin after swapping punches with him is no shame and doesn't make one a bad fighter by any means.

    The competitiveness of the 1st actually makes your prefight analysis look worse than Golovkin knocking the spunk outta Rubio in the 2nd does mine.
     
  11. Exposed

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    I expected more from Rubio. It almost seemed he just showed up for the paycheck. He wasn't even wobbly or stumbling from the knockdown, he just looked up and decided to quit.

    We've seen him take much harder flush shots and try to continue, even when he was obliterated by Kelly Pavlik.

    I've seen this before with Jose Luis Castillo against Ricky Hatton. Hatton took out Castillo with ease, but not because he was some devastating puncher... just like Rubio, Castillo was not visibly shaken from the knockdown but didn't have the heart anymore.
     
  12. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rubio is not a bad fighter or bum you are right the problem for me was that a fresher Rubio fought a fighter with somewhat similar style in Pavlik and was criticized yes Golovkin is better stronger and maturer than Pavlik yet people though that this fight was competitive, Rubio is good but is a faded fighter that a younger Him fought scarred against a more limited Pavlik that and see him older now was the main reason for me to think that that fight was not going to be competitive.
     
  13. Scar

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    I think it's fair to say that even Chavez Sr. at that stage would have also been considered a step up from Lockett. Rubio fought on the undercard of Hopkins vs Pavlik and went life and death against Ornelas. Though since that fight was a WBC eliminator Pavlik had to fight him or lose the belt so I'm not really blaming Pavlik's choice of opponent. But Rubio was, as far as I remember according to me and many others, considered a joke opponent for Pavlik.

    I've also been saying all along that he's a bigger joke of an opponent for GGG and he proved to be just that.
     
  14. Hammer Hands

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    Normally when you get hit with a shot in the top of the head its no big deal, you protected your temple and jaw, made him miss, and now you throw a counter.

    When GGG hit Rubio in the top of the head, it knocked him down like he was hit with a baseball bat. I think Rubio was confused and overwhelmed by GGG's power. Unfortunately, while he was distracted by trying to process what had just happened, the ref was on the fast track to counting him out.

    It didn't change the outcome, and I don't blame the ref. Until you've refereed a fight, you don't realize how much of a responsibility it is to protect a fighter's life. If a fighter shows any inclination that he might not want to be there, or is afraid, your instinct makes you save them.
     
  15. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    It had a similar reaction to the Geale knockout. When he went down, his legs didn't look bad plus Geale got up. He told the ref he didn't want anymore. Rubio didn't look like his legs had gone and he did also get up - albeit not before the ref had said 10.

    I wonder if it's just the sheer pain as opposed to being groggy that put these two down? Strange one either way