Rubio is a solid challenger.

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Your read on the situation does jive with Rubio's character. Him just going full ****** makes a lot more sense than him actually quitting does. :think
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 21, 2014
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :?

    This is some bizarre revisionism.

    At worst, Rubio is Pavlik's third-best scalp. (if not 2nd)
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 21, 2014
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  3. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I'm afraid this thread lived up to the predictable fail that it obviously was...

    I'm curious as to which three or four fights of Rubio's made people think he was so good???

    Or that he was going to last long or win rounds against Golovkin? Or that he was even a top 10 MW?

    Serious questions...
     
    Nonito Smoak, Oct 21, 2014
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Are we forgetting about Edison Miranda?

    Taylor I
    Taylor II
    Miranda
    4th - Rubio

    Pavlik has a shallow ass resume. Not much more than a "one hit wonder" over Taylor (although that win is a damn big one in the divisions' history so I'm not trying to discredit Pavlik at all here, I am in fact a fan).
     
    Nonito Smoak, Oct 21, 2014
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Taylor is one scalp, not 2 :yep

    So either 1) Taylor 2) Miranda 3) Rubio or 1) Taylor 2) Rubio 3) Miranda.
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 21, 2014
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  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    OK, word.

    I don't know how that option didn't even occur to me, haha. You are correct.

    I generally count each rematch as it's own bout in terms of ranking because they can be so different in circumstance, weight, recent form, etc... For example, beating Taylor by KO in their first war at MW was much, much better than decisioning him comfortably at 164 catchweight in their rematch.
     
    Nonito Smoak, Oct 21, 2014
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  7. DobyZhee

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    when you come in overweight it just means he didn't take training too seriously, THUS him looking like he fixed the fight.

    His job was simple. Take the paycheck and the knockout if it happens.
     
    DobyZhee, Oct 21, 2014
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I think it would just be be the semantic difference between saying "best win" and "best scalp". ie Rubio is his 3rd or 4th best win and 2nd or 3rd best scalp depending on where you place him relative to Miranda. (and honestly Miranda was dominated even worse than Rubio by Pavlik, utterly exposed as unable to fight backing up - and overall career-wise in retrospect wasn't a better middleweight contender in reality, though he was more hyped back then mainly because of having broken Abraham's jaw and knocking out a bunch of stiffs on TV. Aside from power Veneno is vastly superior in every category - and h2h possessed more than enough power himself - and more importantly, better durability - to stop Pantera in a slugfest...)
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 21, 2014
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  9. Scar

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    Pavlik doesn't have a great record anyway. His best wins to date are Taylor x2 and Miranda.

    In his prime, Rubio was a gatekeeper at best. This is 2014 and he's clearly past it. Not trying to bash GGG here just stating the obvious.
     
    Scar, Oct 22, 2014
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  10. IntentionalButt

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    Taylor x2 (and Smoak is right, Taylor I outranks the catch-weight rematch by quite a bit) and then behind them a toss-up between Rubio and Miranda.

    Miranda was more hyped than Rubio, but I don't know that he was ever better.
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 22, 2014
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  11. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was the first time Castillo had been down in his career, he had about 4 broken ribs and was visibly hurt from it.

    Remember when Jim Watt was commenting on Benn vs. McLennan and said McLennan didn't have the heart because he stayed down? you never know how much the fighter is hurt from outside the ring.
     
    iceferg, Oct 22, 2014
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  12. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This. Quite Frankly I don't think Chavez jr. is anywhere near the same level as Golovkin or Pavlick.
     
    iceferg, Oct 22, 2014
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    He isn't.
     
    IntentionalButt, Oct 22, 2014
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