Rudi Lubbers 'The Dutch Master'

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  1. Senor Pepe'

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    Rudi Lubbers,

    The 6' 0" 195 lb. 'Dutch Master' from the Netherlands.

    A 'slick-boxing' smallish heavyweight, who was a 'Two-time Olympic Games
    Boxing participant' {1964 and 1968}, and had a very good amateur background.

    By the end of 1972, the 27 year-old Rudi had ran his record to 21-0-0 (11 KO's),
    and was getting consideration for a possible 'Heavyweight Championship bout'
    versus 'Smokin' Joe Frazier.

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  2. Flea Man

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    Have always wondered by the Dutch haven't had any great fighters.

    I know combat sports aren't that well received over there (great kickboxers from 80s onwards though) but this guy and 'The Dutch Sonny Liston' :)rofl) are the only two that come to mind!
     
  3. Senor Pepe'

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    Rudi Lubbers,,,,,,,

    Through 1972 - had 'defeated' the 'very tough' Bas Van Duivenbode (twice), and
    blasted out (KO 4) the tough American 'journeyman' Dave Bailey, who was the #1
    sparring partner for Muhammad Ali.

    Also had good victories over - Piero Del Papa and Expedit Moutcho.

    Desperately tried to get a shot at European Heavyweight Champion - Juergen Blin
    in mid-1972, but the German wanted no part of 'The Dutch Master'.

    Rudi Lubbers, 'I want Juergin Blin and the European Championship. After that, I want
    Joe Frazier. I see a 'weakness' in his style, and I hope I get to him before somebody
    else does. He's like a ripe tomato waiting to get picked, then crushed, and stewed.'

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  4. junior-soprano

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    two big wrongs in you're post.

    combat sports are big here. only not boxing.
    we have had several kickbox world champs, karate and judo worldchamps and olympic champs.
    k1 we rule for several years now.

    as for boxing its not a great sport here, but we have had our share of olympic champs adn several european champs and even a few worldchampions.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Even though I clearly acknowledged the great kickboxers from your country??! Also, K-1 is a watered down version of Muay Thai, although admittedly some Dutch fighters had success against Thai's. K-1 is dead and to 'rule' it is not that great an achievement in the last few years.

    Thanks for the info', I was only referring to professional sports. I cannot recall any World champion boxers from the Netherlands, please enlighten me :good

    As for combat sports not being well received, I read an interview with Stefan Struve not long ago saying MMA was banned or something?!? What am I getting mixed up with here?
     
  6. Shake

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    There is not a single good boxing gym in Holland. Not a single one in the entire country. I trained at the same one as Richel Hersisia (Dutch Sonny Liston -- also known as "the big tub of embarassment") and it was populated by young try-outs and salary-men who wanted to keep in shape. Just a recreational gym.

    Used to be better in the past, though. My dad trained at that same gym and back then it was pretty packed with talent. To get that step further they had to go to England for matches, though, and mostly got their ass kicked.

    That distance was a bit too far for easily distracted youngsters to really stick with it and get better. Just too few quality gyms locally.

    In comparison, there's a lot of good kickboxing gyms populated by current ranking fighters.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Again, thanks for the insight.

    As far as I know the Dutch kickboxing style derived from Kyokushin. So whilst Dekkers had nice hooks I'm not sure it's that ripe for people wanting to make the switch. Whereas Nak Muay train 'international' boxing as well as MT.
     
  8. junior-soprano

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    regilio tuur, alex blanchard, don diego poeder, raymond joval and with the woman esther schouten. where worldchampions.
    herman v/t hof, rudi koopmans, alex blanchard, pedro van raamsdonk, orhan delibas, bep van kalveren, nordin ben salah just to name a few all became either european champion or won a medal at the olympics
     
  9. Senor Pepe'

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    The young 19 year-old 'Dutch Master' in 1964

    Rudi went to the 1964 Olympics in Tokyo.

    Rudi lost in the Quarter-Finals of the Light-Heavyweight Division
    by a (5-0) score to 'Italian Great' Cosimo Pinto, who would go on
    to win the Gold Medal.

    Rudi who sparred 'One-Round' with Joe Frazier in Tokyo, said the future
    Heavyweight Gold Medal winner was strong, but very raw.

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  10. Seamus

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    We called him the Uncrowned King.
     
  11. highguard

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    dutch kickboxing
    is a mixture
    of muay thai-boxing and some kyocshin karate
     
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    1968 Olympics (Mexico City)

    The 23 year-old - Rudi Lubbers, now competing in the Heavyweight Division, loses a
    controversal "Split-Decision (3-2) to Mexican Heavyweight - Joaquin Rocha.

    The home-country host of the 1968 Olympics, Mexico.

    Joaquin Rocha goes on to earn a Bronze-Medal.

    Rudi Lubbers, 'Anywhere else in the world, and I get the decision. They had
    to give it to him, as he had all of Mexico City here pulling for him. One more win,
    and I would be fighting George Foreman for the Gold Medal.'
     
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    Very informative as usual. I do suspect Pepe has an agenda here. Also,as usual :D
     
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    Turning professional in February 1970 -

    Rudi, still only a 6' 0" and 175 lbs. when he turned pro, ran off
    very respectable 21-0-0 (11 KO's) record through March 1972.

    By March 1972, Rudi was a 'Dutch Muscular' 195 lbs.,

    But injuries and waiting for Juergen Blin kept him 'side-lined' until January 1973.

    Unable to get Juergen Blin, Rudi tried to get Hungarian-born now British-based
    Joe Bugner to come to Heehugowaard, The Netherlands.

    But Joe Bugner would not leave the comforts of the United Kingdom.