Ruiz and Gassiev refuse to fight Hrgovic

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  1. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    I agree that he shouldn’t be out in this position but that’s not a very fair description still. He is an Olympic medalist and beat a lot of very good pros in pro style fights in the World Series of Boxing.
     
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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Amateurs don’t count.

    His pedigree is fine but that has nothing to do with what he has accomplished as a professional. His only win of note was over a well-past-it Eric Molina.

    Nobody of note wants to take the B-side of a purse bid (that his own promoter doesn’t want to bid apparently) so there’s no interest in fighting him. It’s a business. He brings nothing to the table.
     
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  3. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    IBF badly needs to change the SPLIT that is offered for these fights

    No top boxer in his right mind wants to fight for peanuts

    Someone bring some real $$$$$'s to the table and make this fight happen

    That is the real reason behind this fiasco
     
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  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Gassiev is still injured, so no harm done there. Not sure why Ruiz wouldn't want a shot at a mandatory, but if he fights Parker instead, he gets a pass.

    Bring on Zhang!
     
  5. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Amateurs clearly do count because the WBO and IBF best positioned are Olympic medalists. They don't count to you and many American fans, but they count to the people who run boxing.

    He brings a 100% certainty that you will get a world title shot if you beat him. If you believe you can beat him, he is the 100% best option to fight for Gassiev and Ruiz. In reality though they clearly don't believe they can beat him at the moment.
     
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  6. acekard

    acekard Member Full Member

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    just make a fight with chinese guy already
     
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  7. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah that’s great logic. Fight Parker but not an unproven prospect for a guaranteed shot at whomever has the IBF belt(Which could be a unified or undisputed champion)..

    Sick of these businessmen in the “glamour divisions” (LW, WW, MW and HW.) At least the LHWs are fighting outside of Bivol..
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dear god I hope it's not Hugh Fury.
     
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  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, he doesn’t bring the biggest purse. That’s why they’re saying no.

    And how many years must one wait for this title shot if you win? And against whom? And for how much?

    Nobody’s scared of Flip Hamburgers. It’s just a ridiculous game nobody wants to play and the IBF look bad for handing him something he in no way has earned.
     
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  10. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    haymon is a disgrace
     
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  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haha flip hamburgers
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    In the epic drunken words of The Duke John Wayne..... "This is getting to be regoddamndiculous."
     
  13. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Demsey McKean is huge, the same height as Hrgovic, with all that he is undefeated, it would be an interesting fight...
     
  14. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hrgovic has the right to the bigger share but that does not mean he will demand it. If fighters are going to turn him down over money they should at least see if he is willing to let go of the majority share.

    Parker, Ruiz et. al. are not interested in Hrgovic regardless of splits because they won't get enough money even if they were to get the lion's share. Fighting Hrgovic for < $750,000 is not appealing to somebody like Parker because he can easily get over a million elsewhere.
     
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  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If they accept being part of the bid, they have to accept their (low) percentage.

    That’s what’s on offer here.

    Why hasn’t Flip’s promoter just tried to offer one of those guys what they’re worth and see if they’ll accept it?

    This is a shakedown to get someone with big-money backing to accept and then put in a winning bid to put money in the Hamburglar’s pocket (or his management’s, more likely).

    Ninety percent tor more of the time a guy with a resume as thin as being handed an eliminator (much less as the A-side of the purse) would be ridiculed and criticized, but Captain Caveman here has a fan club so it’s OK.

    (Case in point, Dominic Breazeale beats Eric Molina and gets a title shot and people were ready to riot, but Burger Boy beats an Eric Molina on his last legs who has already been stopped by Breazeale and a few people on this forum are acting like Flipper somehow earned this. SMFH.)
     
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