Ruiz/Chagaev how'd u score it?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Cruiser1, Oct 17, 2007.


  1. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

    4,622
    2
    Feb 23, 2005
    Just Curious. I can't stand Ruiz but I'm wondering if this fight was a little closer than people say it was. I never really got the chance to watch it.
     
  2. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,407
    8
    Oct 8, 2007
    Never seen it, I dont think it was tv or I would of watched it myself.
     
  3. eliezerm86

    eliezerm86 Member Full Member

    136
    0
    Oct 16, 2007
    you can pretty much watch the whole fight on youtube just type in John Ruiz or Ruslan Chagaev. I really think it was a very close fight, hence the split decisions, there were times when Ruslan did good and there were times when Ruiz did well also. They both actually did real well against Valuev though. I really do believe Ruiz beat Valuev and I for one call on a rematch between Chagaev and Ruiz, because the first fight was so close, also I believe Ruiz was robbed against Valuev of his title and therefore deserved an immediate rematch after their fight. It never materialized but I think Ruiz in his last fight, though with a B-class fighter, showed a desire to actually fight anybody. I think Ruiz might be the only one out there right now willing to fight anybody. He has actually for years been the one heavyweight no matter how boring he was, that was willing to face everyone, even in their home turf.
     
  4. RAMPAGE0017

    RAMPAGE0017 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,624
    16
    May 30, 2007

    :admin
     
  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

    34,854
    18,001
    Jul 29, 2004
    Very close, Ruslan struggled with Ruiz's style which everyone does.

    Sometimes it was depending on what your liked as Ruiz was a bit busier and do better on the inside, whilst Ruslan landed the better more noticable shots from the outside.

    I had it for Ruslan but it could have gone either way because in majority of the rounds were very close.
     
  6. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,145
    167
    Jul 25, 2004
    Some rounds were pretty close,but there was no doubt who was the rightful winner of that fight:Ruslan Chagaev.
    A pretty close fight,but to say that this fight could have been either way is nonsense.Only totally incompetent ring judges would have scored it in favour of Ruiz!
    The fight was relatively weak in dramaturgical moments ,however,the fight itself was quite entertaining.I had never seen a fight with Ruiz before which could have been called fun to watch.
    Chagaev vs Ruiz was better than most fight fans had expected before.
     
  7. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

    4,632
    30
    Feb 23, 2006
    I had it 6-5-1 for Chagaev, but it was very close, and you could give it also Ruiz, but IMO Ruslan deserved the win because he was simply a bit more active and landed in general the better shots...
     
  8. jopez707

    jopez707 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,147
    0
    Jun 28, 2006
    This sounds like it was a good fight, I need to catch this fight on youtube.
     
  9. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

    4,622
    2
    Feb 23, 2005
    How does Ruiz manage to fight these guys who are supposedly worlds better than him to a virtual standstill?
     
  10. emanuel_augustus

    emanuel_augustus Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,905
    14
    Jul 27, 2004
    If you have to ask, you've never seen John Ruiz before.

    Ever try swimming in quicksand?
     
  11. Tom_Tocca

    Tom_Tocca The Provider Full Member

    5,982
    0
    Dec 10, 2005
    I had it 116-113 for Chagaev, I can't see how Ruiz would have won this fight...
     
  12. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,459
    20
    Feb 5, 2005
    Chageav won clearly.
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

    31,860
    3,103
    Apr 16, 2005
    Ruiz "fights anybody" because he HAS to. He can't draw flies to a funeral, so he needs to be paired with other fighters who draw people in - beyond those few like me who would watch to see the cheater get knocked the f*ck out.:yep

    I really don't get how some boxing fans give this talentless palooka respect for fighting opponents, when he cheated against the vast majority of 'em by holding excessively or faking "low blows" - and in so doing, not only cheated his opponents of their opportunity to win WITHIN the rules, but cheated the FANS of the legitimate boxing matches they PAID to see.
     
  14. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

    4,622
    2
    Feb 23, 2005
    Yeah his low-blow acts are some of the most blatant I've ever seen. The Kirk Johnson low blows were the worst and he got Holyfield and Thunder with the same ****.
     
  15. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    17,407
    8
    Oct 8, 2007
    I thought the biggest injustice was when he fought Golota, Golota floored him 2 times and beat him up IMO, yet they gave the decision to Ruiz for some reason. I watch Ruiz fight for one reason, his goofy as manager stoney. Wasnt that Stoney who went after Valuevs manager and got dropped, hes enertainment not Ruiz.