Ruiz has more chances to beat Wilder than you can think

Wilder will catch Ruiz and knock him out, Ruiz looked one-dimensional against Ortiz without footwork...

 

"Maybe 38 year old Ortiz beats Ruiz, I wouldn't rule it out"

"I wouldn't rule it out" as if it's some 90/10 matchup in favour of Ruiz. It would be a 90/10 matchup in favour of Ortiz, who many believed won or drew the fight and whose punch resistance and athleticism were significantly better at 38 and 30-0 than 43 and 35-2 with 2 KO defeats and 6 KD's received. Ruiz won't give Wilder as many problems as several of his opponents, in my estimation.

"But in terms of resume Ruiz on paper at least is the better fighter"

"Resume" is highly subjective. Barring a massive upset win over the now 3 loss AJ, Ruiz has looked nowhere near as good as Ortiz against comparable opponents.

"Stiverne had Rhadomyolysis"

Stiverne would always make lame excuses after defeats. Getting hit 200+ times in the head by Wilder is a good way to need to a trip to the hospital. He showed more desire to beat Wilder than all but a few of Joshua's opponents demonstrated. How much did Parker try to win for example? Pulev? Takam? Ruiz 2?

"but I think Wilder isn't as good a boxer to be able to do what Joshua did in the rematch"

Ruiz was objectively 283 lbs; he had blown up in weight more than Buster Douglas did post-Tyson and the fight was contested in a 22 by 22 foot ring. Joshua didn't do anything against Ruiz that Wilder hadn't already done against Stiverne and Arreola.

 

Parker and Whyte beat Chisora twice and levels above.

Povetkin Chisora level? Seriously one of most proven top HWs of recent times?


Ruiz just beat Wilders best and only remotely noteworthy opponent in Ortiz and that doesn't come anywhere near being Ruiz's best career win.

Yet Chisora would the Wilders career best win which says a lot.

You also mention Wlad who Wilder ducked and his own manager said he wasn't ready for and called him baby in comparison despite had 30 plus fights and being a wolrd champion at the time. Yet AJ actually fought and beat atb27byears old only having 18 fights.

Fury completly exposed Wilder by beating 3 times when Wilder picked in what thought was easy soft cherry pick as he looked out of shape and poor against two journeyman on his return.

Wilder only notable win is against a guy who went life and death with Charles Martin got dropped twice and got beat to Ruiz. That's Wilder record some up. Now Wilder is fighting a guy who lost every round to Whyte years ago.


Come back to me when Wilder actually ever beats a decent HW.

 

Wilder is done. He lost twice to Fury. Those losses made him a humble person and removed all his ambition.

I mean, now he is a wiser, less savage, more civilized man. He understood that no humanis omnipotent, one punch to the face and you're sleeping. He used to believe he was unbeatable. I'm even thinking that he now believes problems can be solved more easily by talking than fighting.

 

"Parker and Whyte beat Chisora twice and levels above."

All of those fights were life and death marred by controversial officiating, with Chisora the B-side in Whyte 1 and 2 and Parker 1. They are exactly the same level, on a level playing field either could have beaten the other on any given day.

Povetkin was 39 with a young man's style and was coming off being knocked down by Price. He and Chisora have three mutual opponents: Takam, Price and Whyte, with the fights not suggesting much difference in level.

If Whyte was a significantly higher level than Chisora he wouldn't have performed even worse than prime Hammer and Johnson against Fury. Chisora effectively admitted that Ortiz was better than him, referring to him as being like a "southpaw Mike Tyson".

Ruiz's career best win was demolishing AJ, so I don't see how that strengthens your case. He just went 12 rounds with 43 year old 2 KO defeat Ortiz and scraped a controversial decision as the A-side home fighter.

The Wlad fight was 2017, AJ can't dine out on his sole win that's clearly above Chisora level forever. Wilder was kept away from Wlad in 2015 but so was AJ, they weren't going to take that fight at a time when P4P No.2, active lineal king Wlad was perceived as head and shoulders above everyone else. Like paper champions Martin and Parker, Wlad wanted AJ primarily because of the bigger payday they could get from Hearn.

"Fury completly exposed Wilder by beating 3 times"

Wilder is the only opponent to not exclusively lose to Fury: not Wlad who got played with by championship debut Fury, not Cunningham or Wallin and not Whyte who couldn't land a solid punch in 6 rounds and got one-shotted.

"Now Wilder is fighting a guy who lost every round to Whyte years ago"

Again this doesn't make Whyte look good because the same version of flaky, injury prone Helenius was KO'd by Wilder victims Duhuapas and Washington. Whyte and to a lesser extent Chisora were exposed as being relatively poor offensively as they weren't able to stop a man you described as "the Finnish David Price" despite throwing the kitchen sink, Whyte even had him on short notice in Britain and couldn't do anything with him.

"a decent HW"

There is no metric for "decent", it's completely subjective and arbitrary. Wilder has fought top 7 Ring ranked heavyweights on 6 occasions, with a record of 3-2-1. His only losses are to the No.1 ranked heavyweight, who is also the undefeated champion who dethroned Wlad.

Wilder will make Ruiz look like Stiverne or Duhaupas because there isn't too much difference between them. It doesn't matter that Ruiz demolished AJ and went life and death with Parker in New Zealand, those fighters were never as good as advertised anyway.