Ruiz Jr - 'I'm The Champion, I Call the Shots Now. Al Haymon will take care of things'

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  1. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gangsters? This is business. This is not some kind of mafia land, these are genuine businessmen that will go to court and take whatever they can if you try and go against contracts. Watch some movies, because your brain doesn't work in the real world. Gangsters. Damn you make me laugh. This isn't compton blood and crip contract deals LOL
     
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  2. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    Al Haymon just needs to pick up the phone and Big Lou takes care of the rest. Blood and crips are the small time grunt foot soldiers.

    Al Haymon deals with the men at the top of the pyramid.

    You're talking about Al Haymon going head to head against Putin's boy. Of course Al would have to reach a compromise.

    Today we're talking Al Haymon vs Eddie Hearn from small town Essex. You think
     
  3. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't know about "gangsters" per se but if you've followed Wilder's career you definately know Haymon has pulled some shady stuff to get Wilder to where he's at. Wilder fought absolutely NO ONE to be awarded a title eliminator with Malik Scott. Then Scott took a dive. Then Wilder got to fight Stiverne who as champion some how went home with the smaller purse. Yet Stiverne's promoter Don King (surprise surprise) some how got dibs on Wilder's first defense Eric Molina the only other heavyweight on King's roster. A dreadful opponent by the way that should have been nowhere near the title (and shame on Joshua for also facing him) lot of sketchy stuff behind the scenes with Wilder. and lets not forger WIlder screaming he'll never face a PED figher when it was convenient to duck Povetkin only to face Ortiz a two time anabolic steroid cheat. Not only face him but he's giving him a rematch. lol
     
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  4. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They' ve done a horrible job with Wilder. A knockout artist, who can talk, has charisma, and still boxes in front of a small crowd for $4 million against Fury. The guy should be like getting 20-30 million a fight. If Hearn had Wilder, Wilder would of been a star.
     
  5. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you talking about? Do you actually think Al Haymon would threaten proper business men. Look Eddie Hearn isn't some hard nut, but he would destroy you in court if you do that kind of shady ****. Next you'll be saying Al Haymon would just pick up the phone if he doesn't get what he wants against the federal reserve LOL. You watch too many movies. Al Haymon won't even bother trying to mess around with the contract as Eddie Hearn himself is a powerful entity in boxing.
     
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  6. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The same posters will say you’re an idiot for not believing all this stuff about Al Haymon, it’s hilarious.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Steven A Smith is a clown, so are his comrades Kellerman and Ward albeit he's probably the biggest clown in the circus
     
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  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It’s AJ’s last fight with DAZN. If they want it in America to sell more subs, their money talks louder (especially to Fast Eddie). We shall see.
     
  9. CutThroatFade

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    Lmfao do you anything about Al Haymon and his business practices? The fact that he is so shady is the main giveaway. A lot of people believe that his boxing interests are for money laundering. If you think this guy is a clean, law-abiding businessman you are beyond delusional.

    Have you heard of MTK Global, formerly known as "Macklin's Gym Marbella"? That is an Irish/UK boxing managerial stable which is undeniably used as a money laundering front. They are genuinely run by an Irish gangster and drug and arms baron called Daniel Kinehan who has probably killed scores of business rivals.

    They have had a deadly shooting at a weigh-in:

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    And former pro and now boxing trainer Jamie Moore was shot and nearly killed in a gang-ordered hit.

    If you think gangsters are not involved at all levels of boxing I don't know what to tell you. But yeah sure, an elusive, shady and secretive businessman like Al Haymon who has always paid his fighters extremely well and who is thanked by everyone in boxing at all occasions is a clean businessman with no gang-links...
     
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  10. CutThroatFade

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    By not associating with Hearn, Wilder has gone from being offered £5m to fight Dillian Whyte to being offered a $100m+ fight deal with DAZN. he has inflated his worth by himself and by staying loyal to Showtime and his managerial team.

    Eddie Hearn repeatedly tried to sign him and mug him off with pathetic flat-fee offers. Now he's being offered mega deals by DAZN precisely as a result of not giving in and linking up with Eddie Hearn.

    Get Hearn's hairy Essex silver spooned bollocks out of your mouth your weirdo.
     
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  11. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Yeah but if things don't go a certain way, "accidents" might happen.

    A speeding car can come from any direction, people can be found in their apartments "overdosed" on drugs, after a wild party, with underwear all over the floor.

    *Cough*..Sonny Liston .. *Ahem*

    Gangsters don't have to wear bandana's with "Parental Advisory" printed on their T-shirts.
     
  12. shadow111

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    Atlas has reached clown status as well, he could be ringleader. After all Teddy was the one who SAS referenced as he tried to justify all his Butterbean comments, how Atlas said Ruiz "just wrecked a hundreds years of physical fitness".

    That's not quite to the level of calling him Butterbean but it's pretty close and it's just as off track and ignorant when you look at how in shape and athletic Ruiz really is, and how hard he works. Atlas should be ashamed of himself. This just another gaffe in a long list of off-track reactions to boxing matches for Teddy starting with Pacquiao Horn. With that statement Atlas a supposed expert shows he has no clue how hard Ruiz trains or how athletic and agile he is. And for guys these unprofessional and just plain dumb it's just pure ignorance and nonsense from these two. SAS was acting like a school girl crying about how his precious WIlder vs Joshua fight is now ruined. Atlas and SAS are sort of in their own league, Max and Ward are more bearable than Atlas and SAS. Ward though even he has stated to make some questionable statements lately. It's gotta be something about ESPN, Ward seemed more logical when he was working with HBO, Max too to an extent. You work for that circus show SAS and Teddy must be rubbing off on everybody they come in contact with.

    Personally I think SAS should have to wear a literal clown suit for a week after his statements likening Ruiz to Butterbean then trying to actually justify it. That **** is so ignorant and cringeworthy he really needs to do something drastic to redeem himself.
     
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  13. shadow111

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    To make matters worse, after Atlas made his comment about Ruiz setting physical fitness back a couple hundred years this clown actually attempted to relate that to the famous Marvin Hagler quote about waking up and doing roadwork when you've been sleeping in silk pajamas, completely butchering the Hagler quote in the process.
     
  14. boxingscience

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    Look, i'm not saying boxing is not shady, because it is, but when it comes to the elite level, it's more about contracts than about gangsters etc. Back in the early 1900's then yeah gang life was heavily associated with boxing even at the elite level, but boxing has evolved since those days. I can say with certain confidence that Al Haymon will not do anything shady with the contract against Eddie Hearn. One reason is because he doesn't like the limelight, the last thing he wants is a huge court case against a huge former heavyweight champion's promoter. Not the news Al Haymon wants, which might not even be his real name, well in court he would have to provide all details.
     
  15. boxingscience

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    Very unlikely to happen. Why would Al Haymon not want Ruiz to fight Joshua in a rematch? It's a huge money fight. The contract between wilder and fury has already been signed according to Wilder, so what do you want Al Haymon to do? Do you think the guy can just cancel huge money contracts with powerful tv companies involved because he has " gangster" connections. What's the matter with you? Do you think these huge tv companies with billionaire owners care about some gangsters? These companies air mafia movies and talk about their life etc without consequences because they're powerful in their own way. The media and the banks are the real powers in the world, not gangsters. My god, imagine the likes of Rupert Murdoch with his media tool, do you think he would be scared of Al Haymon?

    Look, i'm not saying Al Haymon is a walk in the park, but you're talking about him messing around with huge money.