Ruiz of AJ fight vs a Prime Wlad

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  1. Alphafighter

    Alphafighter Active Member banned Full Member

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    Does the Ruiz of the AJ fight have the ability to do the same to a prime Wlad of 2011 of the Haye fight considering Wlads weak chin or does a prime Wlads big size Jab, grab 1-2 style prove too much of a challenge for Ruiz to over come regardless of his elite handspeed and counter punching skills?
     
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  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad doesn't trade with punchers so I'm not sure how Ruiz would be able to land.
     
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  3. Manfred

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    Wlad knows how to fight tall, he would have stopped Ruiz.
     
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  4. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlad would have beaten Ruiz easily by a landslide UD or mid to late KO. Depending on his chin and his game plan.

    Guys like Ruiz were his bread and butter.

    Look at the Calvin Brock win.
     
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  5. It's Ovah

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    Wlad would have UDed him or made him quit on his stool, and @dinovelvet would be telling us what a useless fat pudding Ruiz was, and how much Wlad sucks.
     
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  6. GeorgeForeman57

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    Remake of the Chambers fight
     
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  7. enqwert

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    Wlad was excellent at using his size and reach advantage vs short boxers. Wlad would win by a wide UD or late stoppage. Same with fury. AJ and wilder are the best opponents for ruiz. They like trading and has poor defence, mobility, jab etc.
     
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  8. HerolGee

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    someone like ruiz would not be good for wlad, but nor would someone large like wlad for ruiz.
     
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  9. Serge

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    Wlad via KO. Wlad hits much harder than AJ - AJ is a huge unit and hits hard but it's his fast combinations that get the job done for him the vast majority of the time as opposed to devastating single shot power which Wlad had in abundance in both hands. The first time AJ threw a combination against Ruiz he dropped him on his ass.

    Wlad has one of the greatest HW jabs of all time, a piston-like powerful jab that would be thumping into Ruiz's face with regularity for as long as Ruiz was still standing.

    And Wlad is way better boxer, technician, and mover than AJ and faster in his prime too.

    Prime Wlad KO1 AJ

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  10. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Left , right , hold and repeat.

    Vlad in about 10 boring rounds.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    Exactly this. I think AJ felt he had to make a statement against Ruiz and it backfired horribly.

    Wlads only mission against short guys was to pop them in the face with the jab, tie them up when they got close, rinse and repeat till round 9-10 by which time they were so lumped up that they were looking for an excuse to fall over. Boring? Yes. But brutally effective against little guys with no reach.
     
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  12. reckless

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    Wlad loved fighting small men, it was the tall fighters like Fury and Joshua who gave him problems. He couldn't do his usual clinching on them.
     
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  13. BCS8

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    He was pretty old by then. He fought plenty of tall guys and destroyed them. Thompson, Wach etc
     
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  14. reckless

    reckless Active Member Full Member

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    Yes I agree that he was old but he could have carried on beating up small guys like Ruiz well into his 40s such was the success of the 1-2 clinch tactics, especially if he carried on fighting in Germany.
     
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  15. Luis Fernando

    Luis Fernando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If anyone wants to know how this fight would go, then just go and watch Wladimir Klitschko vs Ruslan Chagaev. Both Chagaev and Ruiz are similar fighters (Ruiz is slightly bigger) with comparable hand speeds and perhaps durability.

    I think Ruiz is durable enough to not get knocked out, since Wlad didn't KO every opponent he faced. Ruiz may very well quit on his stool but I think it goes the distance with Wlad winning 10-2 or 9-3.

    It'd be Wlad's top 5 best win out of his career.
     
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