Rummy's Corner: Top 50 Most Spectacular KOs

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jun 13, 2011.


  1. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    No to Floyd-Berto. Yes to the others.
     
  2. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    In a perfect world that's how it should be, but with HBO's budget only a fraction of what it used to be, they're relying on PPV buyers to subsidize their costs. At least for GGG-Lemieux, you won't risk your buddies getting a dud action wise and the undercard is quite strong.

    Most big promoters are pretty vocal about undercards not mattering and routinely put on weak ones accordingly; I hope this PPV is a success not only as a Golovkin fan, but as a fight fan whose tired of seeing lame undercards. Hopefully this can start a new trend. If they're going to kill us on PPV, we should at least get a good card all around for it.
     
  3. DLX

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    Rummy I don't see how they are backing the wrong horse. HBO has made Kovalev the star he is today. They gave him a pre fight show for the hopkins and Pascal fights, plus a feature show to introduce him to fans. He just hasn't had a PPV quality opponent yet. And his popularity isn't as high as GGG's with fans. Not to say that David L. is a PPV quality opponent. It's just the only way to give David what he wanted to get in the ring.

    HBO is clearly all-in with Kovalev. And if Ward is willing to step up, that fight will surely be promoted as a PPV. And I also don't think beating a 49yo Hopkins isn't a career defining win. But GGG and Kovalev are clearly HBOs two biggest stars outside of maybe Canelo because I think Manny is done.

    I'll but Cotto/Canelo, and I have tickets to GGG. No to Berto/Floyd
     
  4. kirk

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    For me, G vs Lem is worth the money (just imo ) I am pumped for this.

    Im not as hyped for the cotto canelo fight but id say its worth the money

    For me, may vs berto is not
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    GGG vs Lemiuex I guess is a mismatch but who at 160 isn't?

    Floyd and Manny made a killing off of PPV mismatches

    Why cant GGG?

    I agree its not Hagler vs Hearns but its definitely not going to be a blow out like Tyson vs Spinks

    At best its like Canelo vs Kirkland or at worst a replay of his Stevens fight where he takes away a punchers ****nal and then systematically cuts him down
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    As always, thanks for watching (and that goes for everyone who takes the time to do so - thank you).

    I don't know that I agree that ticket sales is still the best indicator these days, but I have no basis for that statement. It just seems to me that, HBO can help build a star by giving him a proper nudge, and in that sense - I think Kovalev is clearly the man most deserving of the push on the network. If GGG vs a mediocre champion like Lemieux is deemed PPV worthy, than I don't see why Kovalev-Hopkins and Kovalev-Pascal couldn't have been. And despite the fact people are critical of Ward's drawing power (or lack thereof), he's clearly a potential PPV opponent for both GGG and Kovalev.

    The question becomes, does HBO push for Golovkin-Ward if/when it becomes clear that fights between Golovkin and the Cotto-Canelo winner will never happen? Or do they protect GGG, leaving him with no viable PPV partners, and push Ward in the direction of Kovalev?

    In any case, I think looking to the future, Kovalev clearly has a brighter horizon than GGG - in terms of potential big fights, and more importantly, in terms of future success.

    And as for Kovalev having trouble filling seats, I hate to say it, but that probably has more to do with Main Events own incompetence than anything else.
     
  7. kirk

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    looking forward to your next video Rums!
     
  8. mirkofilipovic

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    He was 22 years old and still green, he was outboxing them before the stoppage anyways.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks, kirk! Appreciate it.
    :thumbsup

    Unfortunately I don't think I'm going to have much time over September and October, and I only realized after shooting this one that I have work for all of the upcoming PPV events except the one this weekend. :patsch

    But I will try and make them whenever I have the time. (For better or worse)

    :good
     
  10. kirkman1987

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    Good Video.

    I've always thought Kathy Duva was a bit of a MILF personally. :yep

    Anyway, I'm one of the saps that will buy all 4 (not sure on Mosley-Mayorga, I may just catch the PBC card live and skip it)....I think the GGG and Cotto-Canelo fights are very solid. The Mayweather fight IS terrible but has some good stuff on the undercard. Mosley Mayorga is a bad joke but is kind of appealing with the circus sideshow atmosphere. It's like if Butterbean came out of retirement to fight Tyson Fury....just bizzare, unwanted, but a trainwreck that I'm tempted to watch.
     
  11. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Yeah, it used to be that the fight was pay per view. Now it's the fighter who's pay per view.
     
  12. Manfred

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    GGG and Lemieux actually shouldn't be a PPV fight and I'm not buying it. He knocks outs a bunch of bums and now he wants people to pay and watch him. Not me. Cotto/ Canelo is PPV because they are two evenly matched quality fighters with a two big fan bases who wants bragging rights and a championship is also on the line. Old vs the new, Rican vs Mexican. It's major drama and these two gents will never fight again. It's worth the money. Mayweather and Berto. That's a no brainer. One of the most gifted fighters in the last two decades is hanging them up and this is his farewell fight. It's the end of a dynasty and history in the making. I wouldn't care if he was fighting Daffy Duck I'm buying it for the historical value. Plus it's actually gonna be a good fight.
     
  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Extremely well put!

    :good
     
  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Fair enough! :thumbsup

    It's true that HBO is clearly backing Kovalev, and just because they made a big push for GGG first doesn't mean they won't do the same for Kovalev in due time. All the same, I'm still surprised they didn't find a way to manufacture a PPV event for Kovalev first, as I maintain that Kovalev has beaten far better opponents than Lemieux, who is mediocre at best at the championship level as I see things.
     
  15. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Between the 3 I'll probably get cotto-canelo&may-berto, Alvarez-Cotto is the biggest fight in boxing. May-Berto is the last fight in an ATG's career, no offense but the GGG fight isn't PPV worthy and Lumieux P4P isn't better than Berto and ppl are basing that fight so I'll pass.