Rummy's Corner: Top 50 Most Spectacular KOs

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jun 13, 2011.


  1. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Points deduction and rest for Lemieux and had David gone down and could not continue a DQ for GGG. Don't think it was intentional but still unacceptable and too late as was the ref's decision to totally ignore it. Do people even realize that had Lemioux suffered an injury as a result of this and could not continue, GGG still would have won, since the ref didn't call anything? It just shows you how utterly unacceptable that ref decision was. Lucky for him, Lemiuex was not injured and was not interested in acting so it made little differece.

    I know David took some big shots in this fight, but the refs decision to stop it when he did, didn't make that much sense either. This is what happens when a no name ref is put into a big fight; it's either lack of experience or he's been paid off or influenced in other ways to stack the deck in favour of the house fighter. The irony is that Golovkin is the least likely fighter to even need that kind of "help".
     
  2. yeyo monster

    yeyo monster Boxing Addict Full Member

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    2 points deduction and 5 minutes for david! I dont think the punch was intentional, but its sad that the ref did nothing! Btw ggg fans are pathetic
     
  3. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Point deduction maximum. You don't DQ a guy for an accidental foul.
     
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Great post Rummy I think a warning or point deduction at most . David took it like a man didn't try to fake it. I don't think it was in any way deliberate. GGG was sensational Lemieux gave it all he had Good fight
     
  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    No way a DQ
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    I said arguably. He did about the same as the other examples in the video the only difference is David didn't play it up if he had he might have gotten DQ'd.
     
  7. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I find it interesting G sacrificed his "goodboy" image to throw a shot he knew would land after David was down. Then, he still hit him after the bell in that very same round. Either he was more frustrated with David than perceived or David's punches had more effect than realized. All in all he still beat him dominatingly so it's very surprising he did that all, which tells me this is a guy that expects to get no challenge from his opponents. So, no one should expect to move up and look for a real challenge anytime soon.
     
  8. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He should of went into a full epileptic seizure.
     
  9. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lara should fight him at the full 160. Lara has been in there with bigger guys. He arguably beat Paul Williams who became a legit middleweight in size. Fought strong guys like Canelo and Angulo. Lara should go for it. But is he with Haymon?
     
  10. Just Rik

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    Yeah true, Lara is a guy that looks like he might be able to get somewhere with G, "is he with Haymon?" I don't know.
     
  11. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    great video and thread as usual!

    Man its tough to say. GGG knew he was gonna down and aimed low, trying to catch him before he goes down = Meaning he knew he was going to a knee so in my mind i think he should've been disqualified.

    The other part of me and almost everyone is that u just dont want him to get disqualified because he was doing so good and it was just one punch.

    Tough call so i go undecided
     
  12. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    :lol: Dirrell, even now I remember the commentator saying something like "his legs are shaking"
     
  13. RazzAxx

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    DQ only applies if opponent can't continue after recovery time referee gives and this actually occurs from illegal act in the ring, or for repeated fouls that referee has warned about.
    It was worth point deduction in my opinion, but GGG had nothing on that shot and it was anyway result of Lemiuex suddenly taking a knee while opponent was launching attack.

    Props to Lemieux for not faking an injury there like some ladies in the ring have executed during history of pro boxing.

    This is a very stupid thread.
     
  14. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the ref failed a few ways. He was out of position to intervene between them quicker and he should have called a timeout to assess what took place. He seemed in too much of a hurry to resume the fight.

    I watch and attend a lot of boxing; TV fights and most of the local cards in my area and I've noticed that the refs are very inconsistent in terms of calling "hitting while down."

    I'm also seeing "hitting while down" much more often. It seems in a six card fight it'll happen in at least one of the fights. What might be contributing to this is there seems to be more taunting over fallen fighters and failure to go to a neutral corner. But once fighters hit a guy while down they sure seem to know to get to a neutral corner quickly.

    I think the Glolovkin/Lamieux incident was a clear violation. I believe the ref has the option to deduct points or disqualify. IN this case I think he should have deducted a point.
     
  15. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good positioning of the arguments for and against, Rumsfeld.

    Whenever a Boxer lands a punch, while their opponent is down, they run the risk of being disqualified - and it's in the lap of the gods (or, rather, at the discretion of the referee). However, as your video illustrates, there seems to be no clear-cut rule on the offence.

    Whilst I agree that automatic disqualification for such a foul in its various degrees would be harsh, consistency in there being a mandatory penalty is required. This would range from a point deduction to a disqualification, as necessary. But a penalty should be applied in all cases.