Rumors Bute`s club`s lawyers already sued Showtime

Froch just lost plain and simple got out class and got his ass beat. Bute want that American money fight in America where Dirrell will beat that ass. :deal

 

Is your first language actually English? That's hard to believe. :?


A Bute-Dirrell fight in America cannot happen for the reason I've already mentioned. Dirrell has ZERO backup in terms of promotional power.

 

It's not far off from the truth DES. A unification fight would be made in the US anyways whether it's Bute vs Ward or Dirrell vs Ward (given Dirrell would take the IBF from Bute).

If you ask Showtime which scenario they would prefer....without skipping a beat, they would say Dirrell vs Ward and try making a big showdown out of the two US great young talents which are friends and ex-olympians...

Another great American story in the works...with US promoters happy.

 

Froch was on the list at the start when the contract was signed.

 

Since you seem to know a lot about SMW contracts, do you know whether Ward is still contractually linked to SHO or not?

Ward vs winner of Magee-Markussen or WBC mando Anthony Dirrell on SHO, then a move to HBO? Or is he free to go as we speak?

 

I have no idea about the other guys...I wish....

Just a personal opinion here....I wouldn't be surprized to see Magee vs Ward in Oakland of course, if Magee wins, just so that there's another common opponent between Bute & Ward.

I also do think that Ken Hershman (HBO) likes Bute and appreciated the relationship he was slowly developing with Interbox.

 

Bute vs Froch fight cant be seen in America becasue nobody wants to pay for it :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Still doesn't change the fact Bute vs Dirrell is not even POSSIBLE in America. :rofl :rofl :rofl

 

I imagine it could look that way from the outside P.

But they will follow the dollars, whether they are American or not. They've held quite a few shows out of Canada the past few years. Both HBO and Showtime have shown they are willing to put plenty of non-US fighters on if they can bring in the money. And I'm not talking about Pacquiao.

Dirrell has no pull, no real fanbase, and now, no reputable promoter.

They have to know that Bute-Froch is the fight with more impact, especially if things are being built toward a Ward-Bute fight.

And they could have their cake and eat it too. My guess is if Bute and Ward were to sign extensions to their contracts, we'd see Bute-Froch soon after.

We're not in on negotiations, at least, I'm not.

I think there is more to it than just, well, Bute isn't American.

 

That's a good update. Thanks. It would suck if that is indeed what they are doing. I would hate to think that a network like Showtime is a shill for a promotional agency. Nonetheless, it makes some sense.

 

My post wasn't in reference to Bute's next fight but rather the one after which would be a unification and be held....not in Montreal but in the US. With a unification in the US, there wouldn't really be much lost financially speaking if Dirrell is Ward's opponent, rather than Bute, given that Dirrell puts on a great show against Bute and clearly beats him in order to set up the perfect scenario versus Ward.

The point is to develop a household name and the way to do that is to broadcast him and develop him on either Showtime or HBO. Once that name has garnered enough recognition with casual fans, then he generates the desired income. To be honest, to the casual American fanbase, which fighter out of Dirrell, Ward & Bute is less likely to develop the biggest following in the US if promoted properly by either big network as a champ ?

I think it's clear that Bute is not as marketable in the US as much as Ward or Dirrell. Not many are as patriotic as Americans are. Bute the non fluid English speaker will never turn into a huge name in the US as he's not promoted by either GBP or Top Rank... On the other hand, Ward & Dirrell still have that potential being talented Americans.

Big household names are made and Showtime or HBO have that kind of power, therefore they make it happen, as long as the possibility is there. If Dirrell would beat Bute and set up a bout with Ward for all the marbles, the promotion towards the fight as well as the possibilities for the winner would show much more potential in the end than Bute winning it all...

 

I agree with alot of this. I would say this though. The casual American fan doesn't know much of even Ward, let alone Dirrell.

My point is why would Showtime feel the need to pull the plug on Bute now....?

They've waited thru the lean years(opponent-wise) only to look to cash him out if he loses to Dirrell, and that is a tremendous, optimistic IF. What would be their plan if he wins?

I'm thinking out loud here.......

I think they are stalling. Maybe they're hoping that Ward-Bute can be made before their hold expires on either one and the fight is able to be put out to the highest bidder.

Why not seek to have the fight under good financial terms for them?

Why not let Bute fight Froch on someone else's tit, while they have both Ward and Bute still under contract, or in Ward's case, an option for the eventual megafight. They gave the parties permission to seek out another buyer for the fight. And now Bute's team is suing. There's more at play here I think.

 

So you saying Bute doesnt have enough star power for fans to go to New York or New Jersey to see him fight?:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Well, the casual American fans certainly don't know or care more about Bute either.

Getting Bute with Showtime was a move made by the old boss in order to enhance the chances that any potential best at SMW would be an extension of and from a Showtime production.

Broadcasting Bute til' the end of the S6 wasn't a huge risk knowing Bute draws a lot anyways and puts on a decent show.

Dirrell vs Bute situation ? If Bute wins, then Hershman's initial plan sticks and a fight with Ward is made. If Dirrell wins, then the scenario I previously mentioned starts being applied with the winner against Ward being the chosen marketed one on the biggest possible scale.

I think the biggest problem Showtime has and is still facing now, is the leverage and power given to Goosen Promotions right from the start of the tournament. Goosen had a rock solid deal with Showtime, one that was kept silent and which all indications point to the fact that when fighters started dropping out of the S6, Bute wasn't allowed in....a Goosen demand

Think about that for a second...

 

No I'm saying Leon Lawson can't put a boxing card together in NYC, Detroit or ****in New Jersey for that matter. STFU. :rofl :rofl :rofl