Rumours of another Joshua DUCK

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  1. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A genuine elite British Heavyweight Champion would not think twice about taking the rematch and avenging the loss.

    Joshua is a bang average, slightly above British Heavyweight level standard, who became a paper champion and unfortunately for paper champions, they always get found badly lacking when in a live test.

    Not an elite trait in his make up and only the spin and lies from Hearn has convinced the unsuspecting mug public otherwise.

    Now he is the replacement for Journeyman Chisora and morphing into Big Audley by the month.
     
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  2. Punchdrunk1

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    I reckon Chisora would stop Joshua if they fought now.

    I'm a bit gutted that the Dubios rematch looks off as I'd have stuck some money on AJ getting knocked out in rounds 1-3 this time round
     
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    The mistake most people made was listening to Hearn, not applying context to selection of opponents who were nearly all old and/or small men, assuming Paper Champions are great without defeating a genuine champion on the way up and ignoring the events in round 2 when fighting a very limited Dillian Whyte.

    Hearn sold him to the public as up there with Ali as one of the greats simply on the back of bashing up a plethora of small and/or old men.

    The eye of some boxing fans on here seen another Herbie Hide at best but more a prime Danny Williams and all were riduculed by the Matchroom FC fanatics.

    The more knowledgeable posters on here, a small minority, knew what was coming when he faced a puncher willing to let the hands go but I never thought he was so bad that Andy Ruiz Jnr would do it on 5 day's notice.

    He was never great in the first place with zero elite traits.

    Now he is a glorified journeyman with his only hope to win 2 fights against a couple of older non punching opponents then on to a vacant belt against a Dillian Whyte British level fighter.

    Needs to steer clear of live opponents who let the hands go as he is ripe for a pasting as soon as one punch lands.

    As I posted on another thread Joshua's career reminds me of a guy who rides up a very steep hill on an e-bike then claims he ran up it.
     
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    Another key aspect that most forget was Joseph Parker’s disposal of his ex-trainer kevin barry. He improved immediately once he left barry in early 2021, and no doubt benefited from camps & sparring with tyson fury.

    In addition, he matured throughout those years breaking through the hughie fury man strength barrier. He was a 26 yr old aussie virgin in march 2018, and a 31 yr old kiwi shagger by dec 2023
     
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    It was dumb of Eddie Hearn. No argument.
     
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    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have never understood the point of alts on forums where you are already an alt?
     
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    Never mind now, i have always believed and as shite as he is himself, Chisora would beat him.
    Dubois showed what everybody knows about AJ, and did what others should have done, just simply put it on him, he can not take it.
     
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  8. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You’re the poster who’s fixated on my posting style aren’t you… why not focus that obsessive energy into developing your own style?

    I see some potential in you, with the right guidance you could RISE above the sniping and become a decent poster if you wanted to.

    Ps. If USKY gets kayoed by Fury in the rematch what does that do to AJs legacy?
     
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  9. Beale

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    Joshua's legacy fight was Ruiz 1 in New York - that is what people will link Joshua's name to in future years.

    Remember the sucker who got battered by the little fat fecker?
     
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    A bit disappointed in joshua if he ducks it tbh. Dubois isnt really elite level...hes good but there,s weaknesses there.

    Joshuas made crazy money out of boxing....its not really time to manouvre around using star power to find easier paths at this point....for us all to pay out more to see him try find someone that cant punch etc. Fell short against usyk after 2 goes. Fair play he had a go. Got to go back for dubois if hes to be taking seriously tho imo.

    If he falls short again i think people can accept that. But to go looking for easier paths at this stage shouldnt really be rewarded with more loots of cash.
     
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  11. Beale

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    Yes at 35 years of age, he is what he is and there is no time for a rebuild.

    To retain any shred of credibility and dignity, he has to take the rematch win or lose.

    More respect for him if he takes this rematch than for any of his previous fights except Usyk.

    There is no shame or failure being defeated by a better man but it is a failure always taking the soft options.
     
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    Yes sir Joshua’s entire career has been carefully scripted and stage managed

    When he ran away from the obese Mexican in that illegal oversized ring? I was ashamed to call myself a once proud Nigerian - Watfordian that night.
     
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    The night Shannon Courtenay became the fighting pride of Watford
     
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    Completely spot on. Its clear that hes not ever going to be elite etc. But how far do we go with ducking and diving. Dubois pretty much humiliated him. Now its acceptable to go about trying to find someone that cant punch to keep his career alive at 35. At that point its surely either retire or go in again with the guy that humiliated you. Especially considering dubois isnt exactly mike tyson.

    I still say his career died not the first ruiz fight but the second one. He got caught the first fight....its heavyweight boxing it happens. It even happened to lewis. But he at least came out to show hes going to humiliate the guy that humiliated him instead of coming out and run away half the night.

    Joshuas has weaknesses but his biggest problem is in his head. He either needs to get out the game personally i think he should or grow up and realise he needs to turn up properly prepared for a fight and stop messing about with unlimited information. Constant learning/teaching. Yet mastering nothing because hes using his time trying to learn too many different things without the tools to even pull it off.

    At some point hes got to realise his learnings over. While hes learning all these different things....dubois was working on turning up prepared for a proper fight. Don charles wasnt teaching him all these different things in order to be an all round great fighter.

    Joshuas training was more athlete based once upon a time. He then decided to be a boxer after klitchko put him over in order to avoid it happening again and ended up making himself more vulnerable.

    Needs to go back to the athletic training. Get hard sparring. Get his body ready for a fight. Instead of spending all the time trying to learn all these different things he,ll never really be able to pull off imo.
     
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  15. Beale

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    Very good post.

    Looking at DDD and his 2 losses, I do believe there is plenty to be gained from losing and/or coming through to win against tough opponents.

    After taking the knee against Usyk for the 2nd time in his career, I thought it was all over.

    DDD has taken the flak, learned the hard lessons from his 2 defeats, come through 2 hard gut testing fights against Miller and Hrgovic and looks to have found himself before his demolition of the Humble Empire.
     
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