Rumours on Fury not being happy with the AJ agreement

Why for fans like you Fury is only one alone person in this game with damn a lot of moving parts?
Because Fury does not likes you?
Fury looks that had agreed for Wilder III, then appeared that Wilder does have problems with hand, then again next possible date failed after this.

OK, each boxer does have fans and haters, this actually is cool but where there are proofs that A. this Fury had refused to fight A.J or Wilder III fight. Ofc I agree that for Wilder III with 2 postponed possible dates this after this might be pretty normal.

I do not blame nor Wilder nor Fury nor A.J.

Only stuff I do not wish to see, fights like A.J vs Pulev II .
Or to read long long talks since autumn maybe till next autumn.
If A.J can't fight vs Fury, might fight Whyte, Usyk, Wilder, Ruiz Jr.

 

If he pulls out it won't be a good look. I am sure he won't pull out.

 

If you look carefully at what I'm saying you'll see that I'm talking only about how much money Joshua has earned from the sport. Even 'lacklustre' opponents have generated big returns was the point I'm making.

 

I fully understand what you're saying, and I concede I have gone slightly off topic. It is just that your post provides an interesting (and worthwhile) contribution to the whole Joshua vs Fury record (or resume) debate.

My point is that, if these names are lacklustre, then how do they bolster the record of Joshua? By "lacklustre" I would suggest that you are inferring that these are far from interesting bouts. From that, my primary (but not entire) deduction is that the personnel in question are not that good. Which goes in line with what I've been saying for a while, is that these "contenders" who Joshua has apparently faced, and Fury has not, are much of a muchness. Of course, one can be good without being marketable, but in an age in which boxers are hyped up to the max (management and promotion have capitalised on digital media more so than anything else) if they are in the slightest bit good, then that would suggest that they really aren't that good. Especially with Hearn whose ethos is sell, sell, sell.

And in the end, your assessment is correct. Joshua has been able to sell out regardless of opposition and Fury hasn't.

 

The worst gossipy teenage nonsense comes out of boxing... “I heard..” “They say...” “Everyone thinks...”

 

It's always rumours about Fury

Same happened in the Wilder build ups trying to convince yourselves Fury has issues.

Everyone has a mental chip on their shoulder knowing Fury will devastate any man born from their mother unless he has an issue.

AJ won't even be competative.

 

Fury's at his best when he's 260 - 270......... won't be a problem

 

Remember when Fury's ankles were broken before the Wilder II fight?

 

I will miss you after the fight.

 

I will miss me also.

Once the prophecy of Fury has been fulfilled I will no longer need to preach the gospel.

 

The prophecy and destiny is Fury will lose to AJ.

 

If AJ manages to beat Fury we will have seen one of the greatest heavyweight fights of all time.

I hope AJ can bring the kind of fight you seem to be predicting.

 

Let's separate the business side from the sporting achievement side for a minute. On the business side, which was the context my post addressed, if a fighter can be matched up with someone who doesn't bring much to the table and still do massive numbers, as Joshua has, then this makes him box office and everyone involved is going to get rich. This is the position Joshua has achieved, thanks in part to clever matchmaking, astute marketing and of course the deeds of the man himself in the ring.

So when I was using lacklustre there, it was really in the sense that several of his opponents don't sell many tickets or PPV buys themselves.
What Joshua managed with a Takam or a Martin was what Fury largely failed to do with a Schwartz or Wallin. Activate a large audience transcending the core boxing supporter base and in doing so proving to be a big box office draw in his own right.

Some of those bouts had an interest because of the narrative that the promoter had built around them. The British grudge match rivalry with Whyte. The first title shot against an unknown quantity from the US. The first defence of the title. The Olympic champion questing to unify the belts. The young pretender against the old master etc. etc. I don't think they were uninteresting as such, at least for UK fans who haven't seen many heavyweight champions over the years.

This thread isn't about Joshua's cv, but if it were I'd say it stacks up well to any of his contemporaries. For the most part the opponents reflect the current state of hw boxing. They are flawed, but even a flawed hw could cause an upset, see Ruiz Jr.

 

That is exactly what I am predicting Holmes vs Norton with a knockout.

 

Lol people always fall for Fury's mindgames.