Run from a 40 year old, Bradley ! Run !

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  1. MonkeyEarMuffs

    MonkeyEarMuffs Dynamite Upper! Full Member

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    I like this guy. :lol:
    You're in AZ? Me too!
     
  2. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good, good. Let the butt hurt flow right through you. Jmm got sonned. Deal with it.
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    What boxer puncher does'nt look less dominant vs slick more defensive fighters, name one????

    Duran, Arquello, Hagler, Leonard even......Sweet Pea Whitaker gettting embarrassed against the foot and hand speed of Hurtado the fight before he fought DLH.........

    Of course a master counterpuncher like Marquez is going to shine more against aggressive fighters than one where he has to go chase.

    Why does Marquez have to go chase the likes of Mayweather and Bradley?
    Simply because they're both faster of hand and foot.
    That however does not equate that either of them is a better boxer than Marquez.

    Both Nacho and Marquez knew beforehand that Bradley would not war with Marquez. They both stated before hand that Bradley was a tougher fight for Marquez than a Pacquiao fight would be.
    They both stated beforehand that Bradley's speed of both hand and foot would likely create tougher problems than a Pacquiao could.

    They said that and said they could overcome it by applying educated pressure and working down to Bradley's body, which btw worked for Marquez.
    Bradley slowed down his workrate the last few rounds and Marquez upped his.
    Marquez landed consistently cleaner to the body and head of Bradley than Pacquiao did, only he did it without the aid of speed and flash, which people need to learn to decipher whats landing, whats not, and what punches are being more effective.

    I thought this Marquez-Bradley fight was razor close, and when you come to realize that Marquez at 40 years of age still is competing boxistically, setting up jabs, hooks, feinting and reacting to a fighter who is visibly faster of both hand and foot than he is, you come to realize just how special a fighter Marquez really is.

    A fighter who best shines vs an aggressive style, right there in the fight at 40 ****ing year of age giving better than he's recieving.

    What other ****ing 40 year old in the history of the sport could say that when up against a really good fighter quicker and faster than he is.

    Ali? No
    Duran? No
    Arguello! No
    Leonard? No


    Hopkins???????????????????????????
    Slick black mother****er!!!!!!!!

    If you're critiqueing Marquez against slick faster boxer types, where is the same critique of Hopkins.
    Hopkins did lose to the faster Jermaine Taylor twice.
    he lost to the faster Calzaghe.

    Looked like **** and lost earlier in his career against raw speed in Roy Jones Jr.

    My point is that you dont say Marquez does'nt do well against boxer types and just annoint it to him.
    You can say that about every boxer in the history of the sport.
    You're not going to shine as brite vs a quicker, faster, more defensive fighter than you are. But that does'nt mean you still cant outbox and beat them which Marquez certainly did vs Norwood, John, and Pacquiao.

    .....and imo did it against Bradley as well, only Bradley was much more competive against Marquez than Norwood, John, and Pacquiao.


    Marquez at 40 has lost that inch or two from getting his punches off from point a to b.
    It happens when you age.
    Cant be prouder of the way Marquez went about his business in the ring.
    He implemented his gameplan well and so did Bradley. Simple as!


    As for Marquez' whining????

    Does'nt Hopkins whine???
    Hopkins even ****ing quits for Gods sake when he senses he is'nt going to cut it with the speed of the other fighter.

    After all Marquez has been through with getting jobbed in his career, I cut him slack for harping on getting the short end of a decision.
    I thought he won, but the fight was close enough in just about every round that almost all of them are debateable.

    I have no doubt that Marqeuz thinks he deserved the victory and Bradley feels the same way.
    Both fighters in a fight fought like that think they were better than the other.


    I think I've made my case quite clearly here.
    You dont shine as bright against quicker, faster and more defensive, that goes for every fighter not just Marquez.:deal
     
  4. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BRADLEY>marquez
     
  5. MonkeyEarMuffs

    MonkeyEarMuffs Dynamite Upper! Full Member

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    Are you saying I wasn't saying that? I'm somewhat confused, I am essentially saying the same thing. I think that Marquez was going to have problems with Bradley and he did, I think it is a natural result of the style match up and Marquez' age.
     
  6. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol at people getting mad because tim didn't cooperate for a highlight reel knockout for marquez.

    if you brawl, your'e stupid

    If you box, your'e running
     
  7. HeavyPuncha

    HeavyPuncha Well-Known Member Full Member

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    SD 12 so eat sh*t and shut the fokk up :hi::hi::hi:
     
  8. MonkeyEarMuffs

    MonkeyEarMuffs Dynamite Upper! Full Member

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    Tim fought exactly the fight he should have fought. Styles make fights.
     
  9. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    can't believe so many are complaining after Marquez lost.

    let it go, man. nothing controversial happened. the right man got the win. Bradley used the right tactics.

    the end.
     
  10. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    :lol: Such butthurt :lol:
     
  11. Farmboxer

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    It was Provodnikov who turned Bradley into a chicken......................he left Bradley on the canvas. Good thing Bradley owned the judges and referee. Bradley's referee did not count all the knock downs. Bradley could not even talk after the fight, was dizzy, his face was swollen as if his head had been in a hornet's nest!
     
  12. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is what you posted......



    You said Marquez has problems with slick fast boxers as if other greats of the past dont.
    I dont think Marquez has a problem with slicker faster fighters, but certainly any natural counterpuncher is not going to shine as bright against one than they would a fighter coming at him aggressive.

    Evander Holyfield vs Bowe, Bowe waited for him making him lead. Did'nt shine as bright as he did vs Tyson as Tyson brought the fight to Holyfield being the natural counterpuncher.
    Holyfield at about the age Marquez is at now, was taken apart by the quicker, faster James Toney who was in counterpunch mode.
    Does'nt mean Holyfield at his best could'nt have dealt with Toney.

    Toney a master boxer shined vs Samuel Peter in their first fight.
    Peter taking the fight to Toney.
    When they rematched, Peter sat back and forced Toney to come to him.
    Peter using a heavy jab to torture and dominate Toney.
    Who's the better boxer????? Its Toney by a long shot, but during that fight, Peter was wise to take advantage of Toney aging and forced Toney to have to open up and come to him.

    What I'm reading in this forum and its mostly by butthurt *******s is that Marquez cant handle boxers, which is ridiculous.
    Marquez fought just fine and was very competitive vs Bradley despite Bradley being diciplined and fighting the fight he should have.

    You referenced that Marquez did'nt make adjustments???
    Elaborate. I thought Marquez did well both boxing and being aggressive.
    Bradley was quicker to the jab, so Marquez made the adjustment to eat the jab and throw the right or hook over the jab.
    Marquez landed well over that counter and Bradley did well to limit the damage to only one punch landed by Marquez in return as he was quickly swiveling to move out and reset.
    When Bradley did that, Marquez adjusted to that and dug hard to the body, the result was that Bradley's activity went down in the later rounds.

    The adjustments were made by Marquez. Both made adjustment but late in the fight Marquez made better adjustments than did Bradley.

    Bradley was even asked about Marquez closing the distance and digging hard to the body in the mid to late rounds at the post fight presser.
    Bradley said, "His experience kicked in, he made the adjustment and was getting to me a little better in those rounds. I felt his power."

    This is Bradley stating this, and yet there are people here so butthurt over KTFO 6, they're going to the extent to laughably say, "Marquez had no plan B! :lol:

    Listen *******s, Pacquiao has no plan B, fighters like Marquez can fight in any mode, on the backfoot or leading and aggressive!
    Just ask Bradley!!!! :deal

    Btw MEM, I'm directing my post to you, but also having things to say to uneducated *******s.
    When I say *******s in this post, I'm not saying that you're one.:D
     
  13. Holy Grail

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    :lol: I skimmed over this drivel called "analysis" which was full of biased juantard talk.

    At the end of the day, Bradley made Marquez his son and put all the juantards in their place where they belong. All the juantards are so butthurt which is hilarious to watch :rofl

    Anyone can agree that he was very overrated at #3 p4p. He was exposed right before retirement which is what was needed and he will go down in history as a decent fighter but not better than Erik Morales or Barrera after Bradley sonned him and made all the juantards go permanently silent.
     
  14. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lamon Brewster turned Vlad into a chicken..
     
  15. Sinew

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    I don't like how Bradley said Marquez was in trouble in a 24/ 7 episode.

    How is he in trouble when you are not trying to destroy the very being of
    Marquez in the ring?

    If Provodikov told Bradley he was in trouble and then went on to perform like he did when they fought ; I am pleased.

    But when you don't try to blast a guy out of there its like:blood trouble ? what trouble? I think Marquez felt like he lost a foot race . no trouble at all just a loss.