Running for professional Boxers

Well he wasn't training to improve then, if he did he would have been even better. What is the point of training if it isn't to improve?

Back to bodybuilding again? What's bodybuilding got to do with this?

Bodybuilding again?

Agreed.

I don't need to know a thing about boxing to give help on general conditioning and strength training.

Oh wow, "meatheads" how insulting. Walking did not get you "ripped".

You seem to think everything I say is specific to a given sport. I've given general help on conditioning and strength training not sport specific.

 

WRONG !!
we are talking about conditioning and strength training for boxing because it is a boxing forum. so you need to know what are the psychical requirements of the sport, aren't you?

 

Seriously virus,michael johnson is THE greatest all round sprinter of all time with records that are just way ahead of their time and unmatched even today and you think he could have got better if he trained for 'improvement' according to your definition rather than the training regime he actually had? That is one of the most breathtakingly naive and arrogant comments i have ever heard in my life.....Listen,michael johnson got results that worked for him and put him in the history books forever,ditto ray robinson,muhammed ali etc,,,they were definately doing what worked for them,especially johnson,johnson knew that racing itself is the only time you go balls out and all other training is to tick over,improve technique etc,by your theory if everyone trains for constant improvement then micheal johnson should have run the 200m in 17 seconds, which is imossible no matter how you train.....
You know in the real world (not your bookshelf full of conditioning bedtime stories.) most elite champions have reached such a level that they are just training to maintain what they have,avoid injury and improve technically,some 100m guys break the world record when young and only improve their pb by maybe a hundreth of a second over the next ten years,does this mean all their training was useless,half assed and unscientific as opposed to virus' high grade fairy tale training which helps you improve all the time?
And by the way,i dont care what you say,you werent there,walking got me ripped buddy,live with it....
Why do you post in a boxing forum when you dont know anything about boxing? you dont get it do you? I find you quite arrogant,repetitive,unable to prove your theories with real life working proof,and aloof in the manner of one who thinks he knows all there is to know....Bottom line,there are too many different body types and different gentics for anyone to listen to the generalised almost 'religious' tripe that you spew out....(have you ever though you might be wrong or out of your depth here? Just a thought bud,humility is a great strength.)
ps; there is no such thing as general advice on conditiong and strength,it has to be bloody SPECIFIC at the top level buddy....

 

Did you actually read my post?

"You seem to think everything I say is specific to a given sport. I've given general help on conditioning and strength training not sport specific."

 

What's with all the I'm thinking I'm so smart? I've given VERY basic advice. Like I've said a few times - training is pointless unless you're looking to improve, obviously if an athlete is coming up to an event he/she should back off the training but saying "I've got to a level where I'm good, so I couldn't be arsed to try and improve anymore" is stupid.

And again, walking didn't get you ripped :good

 

This is some small boxing forum on the Internet. I wouldn't say this is top level, buddy. Sprints, jogging, pushups, situps etc are all general conditioning if you didn't understand.

 

Ive said right from the start that the type of training depends on the person concerned and how their body reacts to it,but some people think they know better how to train michael johnson than johnson himself,think they know the only way to get ripped,think they know how to condition for sports they have no idea about,and think they can show their wikipedia theories without any proof....
Truth is virus is probably some spotty geek who trains in his basement and reads back issues of flex,thus enabling him to be a conditioning coach for esb amateurs and pros alike......I conclude very reasonably that you know nothing at all about boxing conditiong,even at the novice level.....(i also love the way you KNOW how it wasnt walking that got me ripped when i wasnt doing any other training at the time and wasnt dieting either,must have been a full moon that did it hey?)
ps; the forum title says BOXING training bud....

 

No, you said he didn't push himself in training so I said he could have trained harder to improve...

Yep. Burning calories and keeping to a healthy, balanced diet.

Like I've said I give help on general conditioning as in training energy systems and basic strength.

I haven't looked at wikipedia once...

Nope. I'm a fitness instructor :good

I never claimed to know anything about boxing conditioning, that'd be sport specific and as I've said a few times I give information on general conditioning and strength.

Your posts are getting pathetic now, it's like you're posting for the sake of posting.

 

Shows you have a very low level of comprehension,i said michael johnson said he never went full out in training,meaning a maximal effort or 'throwing' up workouts as you would say....If you think this means he didnt push himself you have no clue on training....Anybody who knows anything about michael johnson will now be pissing in their pants listening to you saying he could have been better with your type of workouts or not slacking as you say....
Ok,so you say geting ripped is a function of burning calories and eating sensibly/healthily (a bit of an oversimplification,but never mind,it will do for gym newbies.) so why do you say that walking didnt get me ripped when that was the only burning of calories i was doing at that time? If you dont admit your error here i will conclude you are one of those arrogants who cant or wont see when he is wrong.....
And your a fitness instructor? Ah that explains the arrogance and one size fits all general crap,my wife does workouts to those davina workouts,and boy do they talk some generalised **** on that......
Stick to the dvds and advice to fat old men buddy.....Leave the real work to the athletes in the real world of sports PERFORMANCE....

 

yes i read your post and i saw the piece you repeated, but the topic is called running for professional BOXERS, so why do you come in and talk about general conditioning.
We ain't talking about general conditioning, we are talking about conditioning for boxers!!

You are a fitness instructor, you said, but i can't believe you advice to train to failure/"wanna puke"/at a 110 % every training.
You can't train 6 days a week at a 110 %, you will end up overtrained.

 

At the time it wasn't about conditioning for boxers it was a conversation on a different subject between enquirer and myself.

Please quote where I gave a routine. There's no harm in pushing yourself 1-2 times a week, I never said every day. When your completly drained and you carry on that's when you improve.

 

so you need to give your everything/110% when you what to improve, you earlier said that you should only train for improve (so far your right; nobody trains to get badder). So for every improvement/training you should finish up half dead/ give 110 %.
i'm wrong?

 

i didn't say you gave a routine or something but you're claiming to end up half dead every train ( see quote in other post!)

you are out of your element, virus!!

 

"throwing up workouts" Get it right, Relentless said that not me.

I didn't say I could give a better routine, if you actually read my post I said he could have pushed himself harder.

Walking burns fat, obviously, but it'd take an hour of walking at 3.5MPH to burn 250 cals, actually putting effort in and jogging burns more than twice that amount and running nearly twice as much as jogging. Not the most efficient way but it's work, eventually.

Do you know why they are always generalised? Probably because everybody is the same to an extent. Those DVDs are made for women to act like prats infront of the TV, doing crap aerobic exercise that anybody has the ability to do, they have to be general = more fat people buying the DVDs.

It seems you have some issues with me? Probably because I answer back? I don't know. Like I said your posts are getting pathetic with your petty insults.

 

Why the hostility? We're all adding our 2 cents.