Running for professional Boxers

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by boxexpert, Nov 25, 2007.


  1. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I dunno. I state an opinion and this guy always has to argue about how he knows better. :nut
     
  2. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ok,virus,if you back and read some of youre posts you made comments with INCOMPLETE information,ie assumptions,ergo not being able to get ripped by just walking as conditioning,i have done it as has six times mr olympia and arguably greatest body builder of all time mister dorian yates who every year from 1991-1997 turned up to the contest with the best ripped muscle mass conditioning the world has ever seen, 257-270 lbs with approx 2% bf and no water retention, (and to this day probably unsurpassed,google dorian yates to see pictures.) and the mans contest cardio secret was? Youve guessed it,long walks.....
    Anyway,i know we are all giving our two cents but i feel you are out of youe element and dogmatically clinging to your statements even though its obvious scientifically and more important practically provable that you can get cut from walking alone...( i wont expect you to be man enough to apologise.) Have you ever thought that for some its more practical to walk than jog for various reasons?
    Im calling you out only because you are handing out info that is too generalised,is sometimes wrong and i see your out of your topic of expertise....
     
  3. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You actually believe a guy got down to 2% body fat by doing long walks for his cardio? :lol: I really do think their is something wrong with you. I give out information that is too generalised? Maybe because I give general help on general conditioning. I'm not going to apologise, I've done nothing to apologise for. This will be my last post on this thread. I really can't be bothered to repeat the same things over and over and over.
     
  4. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Loser.......Dont let the door hit your head on the way out....Next.....
     
  5. Relentless

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    enquirer if i may ask, how old are you?
     
  6. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You may ask,im 34 next month.....The reason i have resorted to posting to virus in that manner is because i felt he didnt want to see any sense (apart from his own.) and so needed a reality check....
    I am open-minded on different training techniques (as my dialogue with scurla in the ricky hatton 'leg press' thread will show.) and i know that as we all have different genetics and body types that allows for different methods of training,BUT when i see ANY person acting as though EVERYBODY should train in such and such a way and that i cant train a certain old fashioned way that works for me then i get annoyed,RESULTS are the key and if michael johnson states he never trains maximally in his sprints intervals,or most great boxers say they dont need weights thats good enough for me because they have the results.....
    If very tough 'throwing up' workouts work for you then fine,but far better athletes than us dont do that,are they wrong?
    Each to their own,but no preaching that everbody should do a certain generic general workout for overall conditioning or that one cant use methods outside the commercialised 'fitness world'.....
     
  7. 4eyes

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    This is a great post There is no ONE SIZE FITS ALL routine everyone is different:good
     
  8. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wasn't going to post again but I kinda have to after reading that BS.

    Where have I wrote out a routine and said everyone on the planet must train like this or they are wrong? The whole but "everybody is different" is true to an extent, but general conditioning is just that, general exercise for the general population i.e exercise anyone has the ability to do, pushups, situps, squats, sprints, jogging, whatever.

    I've never told you how you should train, personally I don't care. If you're still upset over what I said about your long walks then get over it.
     
  9. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Virus,you think im upset over some fitness instructor in palookaville that dont know what he is talking about? :lol:
    Listen,you cant see past your own nose and the 'commercial fitness' general spew recommended for newbies.....
    I guarantee you a person dont have to do any of what you say when they get above newbie level for conditioning....some old pros just spar and do bag work and they can last twelve good rounds....Can you? I guarantee you all the running a marathon runner does will not let him last twelve rounds on a punch bag never mind a fight,same goes for training instructors......
    Stick to the spiel that pays your rent fitness boy....
    When you can last twelve rounds based on your 'general conditioning gospel' then re-post......
    (you are also a liar,as you said a person couldnt get ripped by walking,and then later ignored and backslided your comment when you realised that to get ripped according to you all that is needed is a good healthy diet and BURNING calories,and last time i loooked walking IS burning calories,ungracious,ignorant,cant recognise his own error twat.)
     
  10. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay. Now I truely believe you are ******ed. Have you read any of my posts? Again, this must be at least the 6th time in this thread alone, I've given general help on general conditioning. This means it will improve someones ability to run further, do more pressups, situps whatever. You are yet again going on about sport specific training, something I have never claimed to know anything about.

    Is it sinking in yet...?

    Nice edit at the end there. You sure you're 34? I mean having to insult someone and making up arguments is kinda childish. And to be honest with you no, I don't think walking can get you ripped. You say it can because it burns calories, you burn calories while sleeping... not a very good argument.
     
  11. enquirer

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    You are a terrible waste of time,walking can get you ripped and its been proved by a six time mister olympia,i have personally done it myself as well......
    Your general conditioning rant is terribly biased and commercial,once again...
    Listen up,walking burns up probably half the calories of jogging,but you can walk for longer cant you......Lets say walking burns up 4 calories per minute and jogging burn up 8,then just walk for twice as long timewise as you would jog and you have the same total calories burnt.......So if you can burn good calories by jogging you can also do the eaxact same while walking....
    This is so simple even YOU must get it........
    Do you have a vested interest in plugging your commercial conditioning or something?
    I know one thing,i can learn off some on this forum,but i have learnt off you that some folks are just too dense to see past their own navel......
     
  12. viru§™

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    OMG you've found the secret to weight loss. If it's so simple can you please explain why us normal people have to work extremely hard to burn fat and you can just walk it off?
     
  13. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Coming from a self confessed know it all fitness instructor thats pretty ironic.....
    Its no secret pal,just that people think thet have to pay money to have an airhead like you tell them how to tie their laces up in a fancy gym....
    Maybe myself and others have quicker metabolisms than you,or maybe you people have NEVER even ****ing tried long walks yet you are so quick to dismiss it....
    I tell you what mr fitness,try it,walk for at least an hour a day at good pace and see if your body responds.....(You dont have to anyway as your already 165 ripped hey? )
    Listen,just because commerce spins the line that you have to work like a dog to get cut,doesnt mean its true,i mean remember the ab machines that promise a six pack with five mins a day? Or think of jane fondas 'no pain no gain'..... I train for performance and results not for fancy fitness theories,fads or fashion,it worked for me,maybe because of my body metabolism,so stop hating and get on with your own ****.....
     
  14. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Please quote where I say the words "I know it all".

    Oh I know it's not a secret, anyone with 5 mintues to spare can learn it for themseves. It's just that most would rather pay someone to tell them what to do instead of going through the process of learning.

    I used to walk to and from college every day, about an hour each way, then I'd be walking around with friends, walking to different classes etc. I never seen a huge drop in my body fat.

    Ahhh. Okay. So now all the fitness experts are wrong when they say you have to actually work hard to burn fat? Maybe you should write a book, I mean clearly you know more than everyone.
     
  15. enquirer

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    I see also reading is not your strong point,walking works for me,if it didnt work for you,hard cheese,thats genetics......
    For some they might have to work hard in terms of % of aerobic max,for others not. (as ive said countless times on this thread.) But i tell you what,you dont have to be absolutely spent to lose fat,many large people lose weight by gentle aerobic exercise,even swimming,the average well out of shape joe cannot just run to the gym and indulge in very hard workouts,you being an instructor should know that is contraindicated....Many,many obese folks lose mountains of weight purely by walking or very light low impact aerobics.....Where has your hard work conditioning theory gone now buster?
    Man this is easier than shooting fish/instructors in a barrel.....
    NEXT..........:smoke