Ruslan Chagaev top 5 in any decade MY ASS!!!

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by SuzieQ49, Jun 20, 2009.


  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Please do take your act and your" Brian " to other boards.
    Its becoming a rather tired performance on this Forum
    You have been comprehensively embarrassed on this forum more times than Sinatra and Ruiz have had comebacks.If I had any regard for you I would counsel a gracious withdrawal on your behalf,but, as I dont ,keep making a total c **t of yourself.:lol:
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Keep ducking the truth, and twisting your lies. I have been on this board longer than you have. If you disagree with me on something boxing related, I suggest you keep your cool and either skip my posts, or respond with information. Its not my fault you can't do the former or the later.:lol:
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    "Ive been on this board longer than you have"
    Yes you have ,you were DR Z then, and made such a total prat of yourself you came back under a different name.
    Time for a new identity?
    How about "Im In Denial"?:lol::lol::lol::lol:
    You f*****g muppet!
     
  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    You are a sad old man. I suggest you focus on your remaining days on more positive ventures. Or don't. I really don't care.

    Its clear you have the psyche of a six year old. You can't accept inconvenient truths.

    You are wasting everyone's time with your drivel. If you want to compare and contrast Chagaev's lone loss to the other fighters I mentioned, I'm game. I expected a bit more from a man who says he has a 137 IQ. :deal:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::hi:
     
  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    If he gets to fight them 4 times like Layne did, then it's definitely possible yes. Is he the greater fighter? No. Would it happen? I don't know.
     
  6. kenmore

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    I could see Chagaev beating Charles and Walcott. You seem to overlook that Chagaev was being outclassed by a great, dominant champion last night. It's no surprise that Chagaev didn't look good.

    You are deluded about David Haye, who is really untested at heavyweight. Last night Vlad would have put Haye down for the count. Haye would not be able to open up on Vlad because Vlad would dominate him from long range with the left jab. If Haye opens up, he will quickly be kayoed by Vlad's right cross.
     
  7. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    ONE FIGHT....a gun to your head...who do you pick? lets hear it
     
  8. Seamus

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    It's really enlightening that the estimation of Chagaev is being based on his performance against Wlad.

    Likewise, we should base our estimation of Charles on his performance against Layne or Harold Johnson.

    And just to clarify, my assertion is that he could be ranked in the top-5 at just about any point in time, not that he would be the top 5 heavy of any entire decade.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Its really amazing that some people actually believe ruslan chagaev stands a chance against a Peak version of Jersey Joe Walcott and Ezzard Charles...In fact I think its ridiculous

    Actually im basing it off his tremendous struggles vs average 40 year old skeleton and 36 year old john ruiz
     
  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    On Film, Walcott Charles Patterson Tunney are all leagues above Chagaev in Skill and Speed department.
     
  11. kenmore

    kenmore Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with everything you say here.

    It is not unreasonable to pick Chagaev over Charles and Walcot. Chagaev would be far more effective against these fighters than he was against Vlad.
     
  12. ChrisPontius

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    Yes, but on the other hand, Chagaev has the better chin and is bigger.

    Then i'd pick Walcott or Charles.

    But like i said, Walcott lost to Layne and a few others, as did Charles, so a Chagaev win is not out of the question.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    KenMoore,

    What on film leads you to believe chagaev has close to the speed/skill level of gene tunney ezzard charles floyd patterson and jersey joe walcott
     
  14. Seamus

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    The notion of a "peak" Jersey Joe is a little far-fetched. Inconsistency was a hallmark of his career. Flashy (and many times useless) footwork aside, in a result-driven analysis, he comes up short.

    Chagaev has seen his best days, certainly. The Skelton match was evidence o fthis. The post-Tua version of Ruiz makes just about everyone look pretty mediocre. Though I hated his style, he was effective.
     
  15. BITCH ASS

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    I called it like I saw it before the fight and so many others did as well.

    Have Wlad fight Haye and then you can say that ****.